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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 4361173" data-attributes="member: 259">Yep--this is it.&nbsp; The paladin in question was being grabbed by an ant, and saw another ant bothering a friend of his.&nbsp; The player knew he couldn't go attack that other ant (being grabbed and all), but wanted to hinder it, so he DCed that other ant, not intending to go attack it at all, but simply trying to mess it up (in order to attack him, it'd need to take a move action, thereby suffering multiple Opportunity Attacks).&nbsp; He then kept beating on the ant that grabbed him.&nbsp;It was everyone's first 4e combat, done mainly to test out character powers, so I don't fault the player at all for trying that out, but for the next session, I'll make it clear that someone challenged must be attacked or be adjacent every round, including the round that the challenge is issued.&nbsp; (I will, of course, allow a paladin to attack an opponent and THEN challenge it during the same round; the challenge needn't come first.&nbsp; Indeed, this is probably the best order of events:&nbsp; if your attack kills the opponent, you don't want to have wasted your challenge on it.)&nbsp;Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 4361173, member: 259"] Yep--this is it. The paladin in question was being grabbed by an ant, and saw another ant bothering a friend of his. The player knew he couldn't go attack that other ant (being grabbed and all), but wanted to hinder it, so he DCed that other ant, not intending to go attack it at all, but simply trying to mess it up (in order to attack him, it'd need to take a move action, thereby suffering multiple Opportunity Attacks). He then kept beating on the ant that grabbed him. It was everyone's first 4e combat, done mainly to test out character powers, so I don't fault the player at all for trying that out, but for the next session, I'll make it clear that someone challenged must be attacked or be adjacent every round, including the round that the challenge is issued. (I will, of course, allow a paladin to attack an opponent and THEN challenge it during the same round; the challenge needn't come first. Indeed, this is probably the best order of events: if your attack kills the opponent, you don't want to have wasted your challenge on it.) Daniel [/QUOTE]

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