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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 2172898" data-attributes="member: 8461">I'd go with 8 for Gzemnid. He doesn't seem like he'd get that much worship at all, since beholders don't seem prone to worship, and those that do would probably favor the Great Mother. On the other hand, he still seems like a somewhat-powerful god (he is, after all, a beholder), so I'd place him above the dead minimum needed to be a lesser deity.I'd say 9 for Iallanis. Being a goddess of love and beauty for giants is enough for an 8 on its own, but I'd imagine that even evil giants might offer her a few prayers, since the more intelligent ones (frost giants, evil storm giants, etc) are often rather statuesque.For Karontar, since both fomorians and verbeeg are lesser-known giants (and, like many other such creatures, don't seem clerically inclined), I'd go with a 7.It seems odd to say that a god of ogres should be stronger than a god of giants, but for Vaprak, I'd say give him at least a 9, and more likely a 10. Ogres are martial and greedy, and thus they seem more likely to offer prayers to their deity. Not to mention ogres seem more omnipresent than fomorians or verbeeg.Quorlinn seems like a 6 to me, not so much due to the rarity of kenku as the fact that (from that recent Dragon article) Pazuzu favors kenku worshippers.I'd say give Remnis a 7. Giant eagles aren't the most numerous creatures, but they seem religiously inclined to follow their noble deity.Surminare also seems like a 7, for pretty much the same reasons.Trishina could be a 9, since she receives worship from sea elves and dolphins, but it doesn't seem like (in my opinion) she's near the jump to Intermediate deity.It's very hard to judge for Water Lion since so little is known about him. Really, any DvR would work I'd imagine.I'm not commenting on Stillsong, since that deity could be anything from a Demipower to a Greater deity.Ramenos seems like a 6, since he's sleeping his life away.Semuanya, on the other hand, is fairly active in his watching over the lizardfolk, and is unquestioned as their deity (Sess'inek and his lizard kings notwithstanding). DvR 10 here.I disagree about Aasterinian. She seems flightly and uncaring about worshippers or personal power. She's revered by brass and copper dragons, but this seems secondary to their reverence for Bahamut. I'd give her DvR 7.Faluzure seems like Vhaerun in that he's a schemer trying to scrape together ever more power, but doesn't have enough might to challenge Bahamut or Tiamat. I'd say DvR 8 (maybe 9, but that's very iffy).Cegilune should probably be 8 (I seem to place a lot of them there don't I?). She can only get worship by forcing it, not because she's truly revered.Mellifleur, on the other hand, seems like a very apt schemer, and that he'd be quite widely and secretly worshipped by many necromancers and liches for secrets into undeath. He could be called one of the most popular of the hidden gods (right alongside, say, Vecna). I'd say DvR 10.Balador seems like a DvR 8, since he seems stable in his worship. His younger sister Ferrix, however, being more flighty and not quite as canny, would be a 7 I think.Daragor, being the god of all evil lycanthropes, should probably be a DvR 10. Eshebala, being specific to foxwomen, is more like a 7 I think, since those are a fairly specific lycanthrope type.Oberon seems like a DvR 10, simply because of his status as Titania's consort.I'd put Damh as an 8, and only that much because he has three species that revere him.Eachthighern seems more like a 7, as there just aren't that many unicorns and pegasi.Skerrit should probably be a 10, accounting for how numerous centaurs are (as opposed to most other sylvan creatures), and that they seems religiously inclined, as well as strong (hence he'd be strong also).Verenestra should probably be a 9, since she has three races that venerate her, and all are fairly powerful in their own right.</blockquote>

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