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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 2174355" data-attributes="member: 8461">Woo hoo!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm going to say 4 here. Halflings are a civilized race, and seem to venerate (if not worship) all of their gods. This would hold true for Urogalan, since he isn't an evil death god. Hence, he seems like he'd be one of the more powerful demigods.Ordinarily I'd say 2, however, his entry in Monster Mythology says that he acts as the messenger of the other bugbear gods, and that they grant him power because of this. As such, I think that, given that and that he is sometimes worshipped in very desperate times, he should be DvR 3.Actually, you're forgetting Dakarnok (from Dragon #63), but that's for another time. That said, this deity is extremely clever and pragmatic, and seems (to me) to embody the kobold spirit almost better than Kurtulmak does. I'd go for DvR 5 here.Definately a 2. This deity is afraid of his own shadow almost, and his race is minor at best. He is still their patron though, and his priests still do hunt down and kill urds that revere Kurtulmak, so he's more than a 1.This one is difficult to peg. Stalker just wants to kill things, and isn't worshipped. The only deity he seems to have any remotely good relations with is Skiggaret. I'd have to say DvR 1 here, just because he seems uninterested in being worshipped to gain power.Strictly speaking, according to the City of the Spider Queen <a href="http://wizards.com/dnd/files/Spider_Queen_enhance.zip" target="_blank">web enhancement</a>, Kiaransalee is DvR 6 thanks to increased worship during Lolth's Silence. That said, that might be considered FR specific. Even so, she'd definately be DvR 5 before that.DvR 1, to show how she's just barely made it to godhood (as it is, some FR supplements, such as Demihuman Deities say Lolth killed her and is pretending to be her now).Definately DvR 1. This god is either forgotten by the derro, or they hate him since when he dispatches an avatar (not that he could under the 3E D&Dg rules) all it does is destroy everything it can.I think Diancastra should be DvR 5, actually. While she was a mortal before, she seems like an up and coming goddess. Many gods are on good terms with her (not just giant ones), and she seems popular (if not actively worshipped) among the good giants.DvR 2, I think. Gorellik is in decline, but not ready to expire yet.I suppose 3 is appropriate for this god, since troglodytes seem to worship it despite it not really caring for them much.Again, I'd give this demigod DvR 5, simply because he acts in the interests of multiple gods, so many have an interest in him. This is especially true of his mother Shekinester, since she governs his avatars (in terms of power, number, etc).I'd say DvR 1. It says he was only recently able to grant spells, so it seems like he may have only just ascended to godhood.I don't know what a killmoulis is, but if he is the patron of an entire race (no matter how small of one), then I'd say he should be at least DvR 2.I'd say she isn't as powerful as you're giving her credit for. Seems like a DvR 3 to me.It doesn't say in MM (that I saw) that he's the weakest god, but I wouldn't put him that close to Lesser God status either. I'd say DvR 3.Strictly speaking, the GH campaign has always defined a "quasi-god" as a mortal that has managed to gain a bit of divine power, but not enough to grant spells, while a "hero god" is the next rung up, lesser than a Demigod but able to grant spells. The 3E D&Dg, however, meshed the two terms together, saying both were synonyms for DvR 0 (which cannot grant spells).Given that both of these heroes earned a well-deserved rest at the end of their tales of hardship, I'd say neither of these should have a divine rank. Lafarallin finally earned his rest with his beloved, and Gnarldan faded away in such a manner that his still being around seems antithetical to the tale.On the other hand, Kaldair definately deserves to be DvR 0. There is no death or decline of the hero in his tale. While he does "go home, get married, and live happily ever after" to sum it up, it also says he sometimes wanders from home for a bit, which makes it seem like he could still be around doing things like that to this day.I don't think Gerdreg should have a divine rank either. Partly this is because he definately died at the end of his tale, and partly because he seems less of an ideal orc, as simply a medium for the idea of what orcs should be. That is, he's not so much a hero as someone who happened to be noteworthy because his life was so typical as to be archetypal.</blockquote>

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