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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BOZ" data-source="post: 2174644" data-attributes="member: 1241">First of all, Knightfall, thank you for all that information.  However, it is a hell of a lot of information, and it might take me awhile to get through it all to figure out what I need and what I already know, and what I want to throw out.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />As for demi/lesser/intermediate/greater status changing between editions, I have decided to ignore that for the most part.  Maybe I will change it later, on a case by case basis, if I can be brought to understand what changes were made and why, but for the most part I prefer to stick with what I know.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  besides, most of the gods stayed at the same level after the transition, so keeping the rest where they are is comfortable for me. If people wish to alter what I do in their own home campaigns, they may as always be my guest.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Definitely, thanks for the stat upgrade information; I did not already have that.  And the writeups on the WotC boards will make interesting reading as we work on the stats for these gods on our own time.KEEP IN MIND, for everyone: the DvR's that we have come up with at this time at NOT set in stone.  They will be subject to change through discussion, as well as trial and error.  The purpose of this thread was not to create a bible, so to speak, of divine ranks, but to set a guideline of relative power that we could look at and use properly when deciding who should be more powerful than whom.Alzrius, I agree with most of your estimations and arguments, except:I'm not forgetting him: Dragon mag gods will be next.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  but yes, he should be lesser than Gaknulak, even if he is right behind at DR 4.I am agreeing with you here.  DR 1 is more than enough power to do what he wants to do - anyone less than a more powerful god is going to get his ass kicked by the Stalker.that, and as I made sure to point out, she is a daughter of Annam.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I guess I can see your point and raise her to 5.same thing here with Parrafaire, again we are dealing with the progeny of a Greater god.pretty sure they're in Tome of Horrors, but I don't know that they've otherwise been converted to 3E yet.  They're basically a harmless little Fey race (<a href="http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/fey/killmoulis.htm" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/cc/converted/fey/killmoulis.htm</a> ).  I wouldn't dream of putting this guy higher than DR 2.it doesn't say that Squelachie is the weakest god in the Inner Circle (p 117, first paragraph), but by deduction he is the god of the lowest divine rank that is in Titania's must trusted group.  This alone does not give him a DR of 4 or 5 like I suggested, but I figured it should account for something.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />as for the Heroes/Hero-deities, I'm going to skip them.  If you figure that maybe only one of them needs a divine rank, I might as well just not deal with any of them.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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