D&D 3E/3.5 Diving Dragons and multi attack

[UKGnome]

If a dragon has Fly-by-attack, it can dive, bite, climb as a full action.

If it also has Multi-Attack
a) how many other attacks can it get from its available repetoire : 2, 2xclaw, tail slap.

b) do these attacks take place in the standard action, or does it have to be a full round action, ie dragon is standing on the ground.

thanks

 

[Deset Gled]

If a dragon has Fly-by-attack, it can dive, bite, climb as a full action.

If it also has Multi-Attack
a) how many other attacks can it get from its available repetoire : 2, 2xclaw, tail slap.

b) do these attacks take place in the standard action, or does it have to be a full round action, ie dragon is standing on the ground.

thanks

Multiattack doesn't grant you any extra attacks. It only reduces the penalties of using multiple natural weapons in a single turn. If you're asking how many attacks a dragon can get, the answer is that it depends on a number of factors (but Multiattack isn't one of them).

Fly-by attack only works with a standard action. Multiattack only works with the full attack action. The two shouldn't come up in the same round.

The Pounce ability, on the other hand....

 

[billd91]

If a dragon has Fly-by-attack, it can dive, bite, climb as a full action.

If it also has Multi-Attack
a) how many other attacks can it get from its available repetoire : 2, 2xclaw, tail slap.

b) do these attacks take place in the standard action, or does it have to be a full round action, ie dragon is standing on the ground.

thanks

The fly-by feat allows the dragon to take a standard action in the midst of a move. That allows one attack - to get more than one attack, it needs a full round action. Multiattack doesn't affect that - it just affects how you calculate the bonuses of secondary attacks (-2 rather than -5).

 

[Alzrius]

If a dragon has Fly-by-attack, it can dive, bite, climb as a full action.

If it also has Multi-Attack
a) how many other attacks can it get from its available repetoire : 2, 2xclaw, tail slap.

b) do these attacks take place in the standard action, or does it have to be a full round action, ie dragon is standing on the ground.

thanks

The Multiattack feat doesn't actually give you any extra attacks. Rather, it reduces the penalty from secondary natural weapon attacks from -5 to -2 when making a full attack action (which is a full-round action). Since Flyby Attack only lets you make a standard action (i.e. a single attack) at any point during a move, you can't use Multiattack in conjunction with Flyby Attack.

 

[UKGnome]

Many thanks for that.

So, the dragon, on the ground, surrounded by multiple foes has the bite, wing, claw and tail attack as a full round, so presumably has no benefit from multi-attack at all ?

And thanks for the pointer to Pounce

 

[Alzrius]

Many thanks for that.

So, the dragon, on the ground, surrounded by multiple foes has the bite, wing, claw and tail attack as a full round, so presumably has no benefit from multi-attack at all ?

And thanks for the pointer to Pounce

A dragon making a full attack action can make a bite attack, two claw attacks, two wing attacks, and a tail slap (which is different from a tail sweep, mind you).

The 3.5 rules state that, "when a creature has more than one natural weapon, one of them (or sometimes a pair or set of them) is the primary weapon. All the creature’s remaining natural weapons are secondary." For dragons, the primary attack is typically the bite attack. So when making a full attack action, it will bite with its full attack bonus, and make its other five attacks with a -5 penalty. If it has the Multiattack feat, the penalty to these secondary attacks is reduced to -2 instead.

 

[UKGnome]

many thanks for that.