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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8870421" data-attributes="member: 18">Uh-huh, but your definition is seriously inaccurate frankly, and certainly not what most people in this thread mean (very clear from other posts), more importantly, and Wikipedia isn't great on this kind of thing.The temptation to do things is not the same as doing things. And conflating the two is incredible! And your "the temptation is strong" is pretty silly, because experience shows that it's obviously easily demonstrated to be untrue. I've never seen a powergamer transition into munchkin behaviour. Not once in 34 years of TTRPGs.I have seen the opposite transition - multiple times, in fact. Virtually all munchkins either quit TTRPGs when they realize people aren't cool with that, or they chill out into being powergamers.So the square-rectangle analogy isn't entirely off, but it's a one-way transition in my experience and I've never even heard a STORY to the contrary. Have you even got a story of a powergamer suddenly going rabid and turning into a munchkin? It sounds an awful lot like "violent videogames make people violent" and similar slippery slope arguments.</blockquote>