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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8870461" data-attributes="member: 93670">tradeoffs in pros/cons.&nbsp; Take Alice (GWMfighter) &amp; Bob/Cindy (firebolt fire dragon sorc/GWMbarbarian)Alice hits for 2d6+5+10 each of three attacks(22/44/66avg depending on hit).&nbsp; Bob &amp; Cindy hit for 3d10+5 with one attack(21.5avg) &amp; 2d6+3+5&nbsp; on two attacks respectively(15/30avg) .&nbsp; Alice is&nbsp; less impacted by a miss than Bob or Cindy &amp; Cindy is less impacted by a miss than Bob but the damage also leans in favor of those less impacted.&nbsp; With every attack being made at the same full attrib+prof+mods there's never an optimal situation for Bob or a suboptimal one for Alice until AC is high enough that the situation is one where bob is going from being generally siuboptimal to an extremely suboptimal situation.&nbsp; Going the other way with monsters the GM can't have monsters with ACs &amp; tohits doing the same in ways that target the weaknesses &amp; strengths of different PCs because all attacks are made at the same bonus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8870461, member: 93670"] tradeoffs in pros/cons. Take Alice (GWMfighter) & Bob/Cindy (firebolt fire dragon sorc/GWMbarbarian) Alice hits for 2d6+5+10 each of three attacks(22/44/66avg depending on hit). Bob & Cindy hit for 3d10+5 with one attack(21.5avg) & 2d6+3+5 on two attacks respectively(15/30avg) . Alice is less impacted by a miss than Bob or Cindy & Cindy is less impacted by a miss than Bob but the damage also leans in favor of those less impacted. With every attack being made at the same full attrib+prof+mods there's never an optimal situation for Bob or a suboptimal one for Alice until AC is high enough that the situation is one where bob is going from being generally siuboptimal to an extremely suboptimal situation. Going the other way with monsters the GM can't have monsters with ACs & tohits doing the same in ways that target the weaknesses & strengths of different PCs because all attacks are made at the same bonus. [/QUOTE]

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