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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8871632" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>just reposting what you are asking why to for context...</p><p></p><p>I feel that way because it is a show of how much of a challenge the monster is... I am sure you can argue for an exception here or there "this monster has a low AC but like 3x the HP and can't be hurt by non magic damages" type things but over all as PCs grow so too should the threats.</p><p></p><p>Example: My 1st level non power gamed combat character has +2 prof +2 stat (talk about not power gamed that is a 15) for a total +4... by level 17 (I actually think 15 might be more reasonable for 20+ CRs but that is becuse the cr system is so bad) you most likely have that at least up to a +4 stat and you have a +6 prof... so +10 you most likely have some magic bonus but I wont calculate that for the non power gamed one... so 4-10</p><p>my 1st level power gamed combat character has +2 prof and +5 stat for a total of +7. at level 17 my prof has gone up to +6 and I have at least +2 from magic and most likely have broken cap (book, class or belt) and have +6+ for stat... so +14 this leads to a range of 7-14</p><p></p><p>this is bounded (what I call tight bounded) accuracy. it means that the AC you can face at level 1 (lets say a 14) you can still face at 17.</p><p></p><p>IMO I want that to have more spread. I want there to still be bound ( I never want +33/+33/+28/+23I saw from 3e again) just not as tight... I would say if that non power gamed character had +15 instead of +10, and that power gamed one ended at +17 or 18 instead of +14 you could easily have all the CR 17+ have ac of 20 or higher (with some carve out exceptions)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8871632, member: 67338"] just reposting what you are asking why to for context... I feel that way because it is a show of how much of a challenge the monster is... I am sure you can argue for an exception here or there "this monster has a low AC but like 3x the HP and can't be hurt by non magic damages" type things but over all as PCs grow so too should the threats. Example: My 1st level non power gamed combat character has +2 prof +2 stat (talk about not power gamed that is a 15) for a total +4... by level 17 (I actually think 15 might be more reasonable for 20+ CRs but that is becuse the cr system is so bad) you most likely have that at least up to a +4 stat and you have a +6 prof... so +10 you most likely have some magic bonus but I wont calculate that for the non power gamed one... so 4-10 my 1st level power gamed combat character has +2 prof and +5 stat for a total of +7. at level 17 my prof has gone up to +6 and I have at least +2 from magic and most likely have broken cap (book, class or belt) and have +6+ for stat... so +14 this leads to a range of 7-14 this is bounded (what I call tight bounded) accuracy. it means that the AC you can face at level 1 (lets say a 14) you can still face at 17. IMO I want that to have more spread. I want there to still be bound ( I never want +33/+33/+28/+23I saw from 3e again) just not as tight... I would say if that non power gamed character had +15 instead of +10, and that power gamed one ended at +17 or 18 instead of +14 you could easily have all the CR 17+ have ac of 20 or higher (with some carve out exceptions) [/QUOTE]
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