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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8177023" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Awesome! I hope she’ll find it useful.</p><p></p><p>That definitely casts his actions in a different light, in my opinion. That makes me think he’s simply refusing to have a dialogue with the players on what ever everyone wants out of the game, rather than wanting to exploit the players for personal gain. Which is still a problem but not as egregious.</p><p></p><p>It’s hard to assess the situation only hearing about it from a player’s perspective, second hand. But if I assume he’s a reasonable guy who’s simply struggling with communicating and managing the group dynamic, my guess would be that he thinks his burnout is being caused by having to do a lot of work to entertain players who he perceives as not as not being as invested in the game as he is. But rather than expressing that frustration to the players and asking for their help, he’s trying to enforce greater investment, which is a bad way to go about addressing the issue.</p><p></p><p>I think what’s probably needed here is an open, honest discussion about what everyone wants out of the game, and a willingness from all parties to try to help the others achieve what they want out of it, to the extent that it’s reasonable to do so. Along with an openness to the possibility of restructuring the game - maybe a different DM, is what’s needed, or maybe everyone needs to recalibrate their expectations. They’ll all have to talk about it to find an agreeable solution.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, it seems like this DM is unwilling to have such a discussion, which makes it impossible to reach a mutually agreeable compromise. Unless he can be persuaded to hear the players out, I can’t imagine a situation where everyone will be happy with the game, in which case he may not be a good fit for the group going forward.</p><p></p><p>Indeed. Here’s hoping a solution can be found that satisfies everyone, or failing that, that the disagreement doesn’t damage any friendships.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8177023, member: 6779196"] Awesome! I hope she’ll find it useful. That definitely casts his actions in a different light, in my opinion. That makes me think he’s simply refusing to have a dialogue with the players on what ever everyone wants out of the game, rather than wanting to exploit the players for personal gain. Which is still a problem but not as egregious. It’s hard to assess the situation only hearing about it from a player’s perspective, second hand. But if I assume he’s a reasonable guy who’s simply struggling with communicating and managing the group dynamic, my guess would be that he thinks his burnout is being caused by having to do a lot of work to entertain players who he perceives as not as not being as invested in the game as he is. But rather than expressing that frustration to the players and asking for their help, he’s trying to enforce greater investment, which is a bad way to go about addressing the issue. I think what’s probably needed here is an open, honest discussion about what everyone wants out of the game, and a willingness from all parties to try to help the others achieve what they want out of it, to the extent that it’s reasonable to do so. Along with an openness to the possibility of restructuring the game - maybe a different DM, is what’s needed, or maybe everyone needs to recalibrate their expectations. They’ll all have to talk about it to find an agreeable solution. Unfortunately, it seems like this DM is unwilling to have such a discussion, which makes it impossible to reach a mutually agreeable compromise. Unless he can be persuaded to hear the players out, I can’t imagine a situation where everyone will be happy with the game, in which case he may not be a good fit for the group going forward. Indeed. Here’s hoping a solution can be found that satisfies everyone, or failing that, that the disagreement doesn’t damage any friendships. [/QUOTE]
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