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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9080096" data-attributes="member: 23751">As far as AI creations being art.&nbsp; What if I begin by asking for a ranger with a hawk on his shoulder.&nbsp; Then I don't like the eyes, so I have the AI change the shape.&nbsp; Then the color.&nbsp; Then lengthen the eyelashes.&nbsp; Then I decide that the hawk needs its head turned to the right.&nbsp; Not enough AI, turn it more.&nbsp; Now open the beak a hair.&nbsp; Darken the feathers a bit.&nbsp; I want the eyes to be entirely orange and with a slight glow.&nbsp; And on and on until it meets my vision of what I want the image to look like.&nbsp; That's art. It's MY creation. I'm using the tool to achieve MY vision.Now folks might be tempted to say, &quot;But you're exercising a lot more control than someone who just asks for the AI to make a picture.&quot;&nbsp; That's true, but if I just ask for a male ranger with a longsword, a bow and a hawk on his shoulder and leave it at that, the AI is still achieving my vision.&nbsp; It's just a less precise vision.At what point does it cross from the AI making a picture into the AI being a tool to achieve my artistic vision?&nbsp; There is no objective line.&nbsp; None. It's a subjective line.&nbsp; Therefore you can't say with any objective certainty that the second example is not art.&nbsp; It is art.&nbsp; The best you can argue is that you personally don't consider it to be art, much the same way as I don't consider the Tomato Soup Can or some other modern art pieces to be art.&nbsp; My opinion, though, is just that.&nbsp; An opinion and not fact.&nbsp; Those are art pieces whether I consider them to be so or not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 9080096, member: 23751"] As far as AI creations being art. What if I begin by asking for a ranger with a hawk on his shoulder. Then I don't like the eyes, so I have the AI change the shape. Then the color. Then lengthen the eyelashes. Then I decide that the hawk needs its head turned to the right. Not enough AI, turn it more. Now open the beak a hair. Darken the feathers a bit. I want the eyes to be entirely orange and with a slight glow. And on and on until it meets my vision of what I want the image to look like. That's art. It's MY creation. I'm using the tool to achieve MY vision. Now folks might be tempted to say, "But you're exercising a lot more control than someone who just asks for the AI to make a picture." That's true, but if I just ask for a male ranger with a longsword, a bow and a hawk on his shoulder and leave it at that, the AI is still achieving my vision. It's just a less precise vision. At what point does it cross from the AI making a picture into the AI being a tool to achieve my artistic vision? There is no objective line. None. It's a subjective line. Therefore you can't say with any objective certainty that the second example is not art. It is art. The best you can argue is that you personally don't consider it to be art, much the same way as I don't consider the Tomato Soup Can or some other modern art pieces to be art. My opinion, though, is just that. An opinion and not fact. Those are art pieces whether I consider them to be so or not. [/QUOTE]

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