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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9080184" data-attributes="member: 18">It's possible to do it because of artistic theft/copyright violation, which is essentially the same thing. That you don't see a problem is on you, and isn't demonstrative of a real issue. At very best you're undoubtedly violating terms, because people who let you see their art don't let you use it for commercial purposes, which is exactly what you're doing.You demonstrate this failure to understand basic problems further by your insistence on this &quot;Theft/fraud is just conversion!&quot; nonsense.You can keep saying this, as the UK police drag you away, and put you in a cell, and you go in front of the judge, and get a criminal conviction, but it's not going to change the facts. You had the intention to permanently deprive people of their property. You're not getting off with a civil case.Conversion isn't something that actually is used that much in UK law (mostly where it is, it's with businesses and with questionable decisions rather criminal intent). This is theft/fraud. Trying to pretend it's anything is shenanigans of silliest and most internet kind.(I should note that conversion technically exists in the UK, but that's not going to prevent criminal charges being brought against you.)All current signs suggest it's going to go extremely badly for the AI companies. Even if they manage to survive in US courts (unlikely, it seems), in the EU courts? GOOD LUCK.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9080184, member: 18"] It's possible to do it because of artistic theft/copyright violation, which is essentially the same thing. That you don't see a problem is on you, and isn't demonstrative of a real issue. At very best you're undoubtedly violating terms, because people who let you see their art don't let you use it for commercial purposes, which is exactly what you're doing. You demonstrate this failure to understand basic problems further by your insistence on this "Theft/fraud is just conversion!" nonsense. You can keep saying this, as the UK police drag you away, and put you in a cell, and you go in front of the judge, and get a criminal conviction, but it's not going to change the facts. You had the intention to permanently deprive people of their property. You're not getting off with a civil case. Conversion isn't something that actually is used that much in UK law (mostly where it is, it's with businesses and with questionable decisions rather criminal intent). This is theft/fraud. Trying to pretend it's anything is shenanigans of silliest and most internet kind. (I should note that conversion technically exists in the UK, but that's not going to prevent criminal charges being brought against you.) All current signs suggest it's going to go extremely badly for the AI companies. Even if they manage to survive in US courts (unlikely, it seems), in the EU courts? GOOD LUCK. [/QUOTE]

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