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<blockquote data-quote="Damon" data-source="post: 9081654" data-attributes="member: 7042456"><p>I think it's worth considering the possibility that while AI may create quality, it may not be able to create <em>value</em>. This is a slippery idea because we tend to assume that quality and value are the same thing, and often this is true- but perhaps not in this case.</p><p></p><p>For example- suppose you learned that every other poster on this site-including me- were in fact not human but were an AI Bot. Would you continue to engage in this thread and this forum? How much of your time and energy would you devote to conversing only with AI Bots on this site? </p><p></p><p>And note that the answer to this question does not depend on the quality of the discourse- the AI's you found yourself engaging with might be quite good at responding to your comments- so the issue is not the quality of the conversation, but the fact that it is being generated by a machine.</p><p></p><p>I suspect that most people would not spend too much time on here if they were the only human present- talking to AI Bots would- I suspect- feel quite pointless after a short while.</p><p></p><p>Put more simply- while the AI's might offer <em>quality</em> conversation, that same conversation would have no value, and you would not waste your time engaging with them.</p><p></p><p>So it may well be that the value of AI Generated content will come to be seen as zero, even if the quality of that content improves. The real problem for anyone wishing to use AI content commercially in the future will not be copyright- this will be resolved- the real problem will be that their customers will come to see their AI generated content as having little or no value- not because they are low quality but because they were produced with almost no time or effort. Humans tend to assign value to creative outputs using the metrics of human time, effort and skill- so the more the technology eliminates the need for these things, the less value that technology creates.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In this sense AI generated content is a self limiting phenomena because the very ease with which it can be created destroys it's commercial value, which will trend toward zero as the technology becomes easier and quicker to deploy. I can already purchase AI generated images on the Artstation marketplace in packs of 500 for the price of a starbucks latte- and these are high quality images any one of which might take a skilled human artist days to produce. I expect that price to drop further as more competitors enter the market.</p><p></p><p>So I guess the question is; how much would you be happy to pay for a product that you knew had been produced in a few minutes by an AI? As much as you would have paid if that same product were made by human writers and Artists? You might pay a small amount for the convenience of not having to type in the prompts yourself, but beyond that the idea that AI can be used to create high value products is- to me- almost an oxymoron, because the entire point of labour saving technology is to eliminate the time and effort required to do the job- and it's that time and effort that gives value to the final result.</p><p></p><p>Any future publisher who thinks they can make money by telling their customers that their products were made using AI is mistaken in my view. Generative AI may not turn out to be the giant cash cow that wall street so fondly imagines it to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Damon, post: 9081654, member: 7042456"] I think it's worth considering the possibility that while AI may create quality, it may not be able to create [I]value[/I]. This is a slippery idea because we tend to assume that quality and value are the same thing, and often this is true- but perhaps not in this case. For example- suppose you learned that every other poster on this site-including me- were in fact not human but were an AI Bot. Would you continue to engage in this thread and this forum? How much of your time and energy would you devote to conversing only with AI Bots on this site? And note that the answer to this question does not depend on the quality of the discourse- the AI's you found yourself engaging with might be quite good at responding to your comments- so the issue is not the quality of the conversation, but the fact that it is being generated by a machine. I suspect that most people would not spend too much time on here if they were the only human present- talking to AI Bots would- I suspect- feel quite pointless after a short while. Put more simply- while the AI's might offer [I]quality[/I] conversation, that same conversation would have no value, and you would not waste your time engaging with them. So it may well be that the value of AI Generated content will come to be seen as zero, even if the quality of that content improves. The real problem for anyone wishing to use AI content commercially in the future will not be copyright- this will be resolved- the real problem will be that their customers will come to see their AI generated content as having little or no value- not because they are low quality but because they were produced with almost no time or effort. Humans tend to assign value to creative outputs using the metrics of human time, effort and skill- so the more the technology eliminates the need for these things, the less value that technology creates. In this sense AI generated content is a self limiting phenomena because the very ease with which it can be created destroys it's commercial value, which will trend toward zero as the technology becomes easier and quicker to deploy. I can already purchase AI generated images on the Artstation marketplace in packs of 500 for the price of a starbucks latte- and these are high quality images any one of which might take a skilled human artist days to produce. I expect that price to drop further as more competitors enter the market. So I guess the question is; how much would you be happy to pay for a product that you knew had been produced in a few minutes by an AI? As much as you would have paid if that same product were made by human writers and Artists? You might pay a small amount for the convenience of not having to type in the prompts yourself, but beyond that the idea that AI can be used to create high value products is- to me- almost an oxymoron, because the entire point of labour saving technology is to eliminate the time and effort required to do the job- and it's that time and effort that gives value to the final result. Any future publisher who thinks they can make money by telling their customers that their products were made using AI is mistaken in my view. Generative AI may not turn out to be the giant cash cow that wall street so fondly imagines it to be. [/QUOTE]
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