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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 3332708" data-attributes="member: 18701">Pretty good reasoning. I'll keep this in mind if I require them to research spells from the Spell Compendium.Well, I don't want to get into a debate over what someone thinks powergaming is. My interpretation of a powergamer is someone that will spend time outside of the game flipping through books reading everything he can in order to combine feats/spells/ect to form the most powerful attack/defence/ect he can in an attempt to make his PC as invincible as possible. I encourage making a strong build to survive, but it's scary when a guy will spend hours between sessions tweaking everything possible so "nothing can kill his PC". Buffing a PC to a point where you say, "I raised his attack with this spell, and he's protected from this effect, ect ect" is one thing. But I consider a person a powergamer when he's saying, "I buff my attack bonus with this cause it gives a +1 luck bonus, and I stacked it with this +2 enchantment bonus, & I stack it again with this +1 morale bonus, and then cast this spell to raise my BAB, & this to raise my Str bonus, & then cast this spell to give more attacks, then this swift spell to melee attack from a distance, & since I have this feat it will work perfectly with this spell to give me more attacks". Basically, to me a powergamer is a person that will spend time to figure out how he can make his current level perform better than something 5 levels higher or so, by just picking the right spells/feats/ect. If you really need it, I can write up his latest spell combo to give an example of what I dealt with in the "final boss" encounter at the end of our last adventure...but again, I'm not really looking to debate the definition of powergaming or whether powergaming is good or bad. I'm just looking for advice on dealing with a player that enjoys picking apart the books to dominate the game rather than roleplaying a character.</blockquote>

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