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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8763786" data-attributes="member: 93670">Even then t<a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/find-traps" target="_blank">he spell i</a>s literally useless.[spoiler="Find Traps all in one go"]You sense the presence of any trap within range that is within line of sight. A trap, for the purpose of this spell, includes anything that would inflict a sudden or unexpected effect you consider harmful or undesirable, which was specifically intended as such by its creator. Thus, the spell would sense an area affected by the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/alarm" target="_blank">alarm</a> spell, a <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells/glyph-of-warding" target="_blank">glyph of warding</a>, or a mechanical pit trap, but it would not reveal a natural weakness in the floor, an unstable ceiling, or a hidden sinkhole.This spell merely reveals that a trap is present. You don't learn the location of each trap, but you do learn the general nature of the danger posed by a trap you sense.[/spoiler]pressure plate under a carpet?  Not in LoSPit trap under some leaves?  Mayyybe in LoS depending on source of the leaves.Poison immune creature sets up a poison mist trap?... maybe not a trapLowest bidder on a catwalk did a poor job on a catwalk that's going to collapse?  Not a trapNot if it was behind a tapestry, inside a chest, or behind a book for example, they wouldn't be in LoSUnless it's not in LoSThere's the first devil.   Even slippery muck growing naturally where it was left to grow might not count even if it's likely to zip you into the lava below,  Likewise with mushrooms that emit a poison cloud when disturbed & similardetect traps:"Yes there is a poison trap."/"yes there is a mechanical trap"Player:"Where?"Detect traps: "You don't learn the location of each trap"Detect traps: "The general nature is poison."/"The general nature is mechanical."Player: "um... can I get my spell slot back?  Maybe swap that for something that performs a useful function?"GM: "Yea to both"It's not a ritual spell so no caster is ever going to want to burn a L2 slot casting it even with a permissive gm who gives more[spoiler="this was the 2e find traps"]Sphere: DivinationRange: 0 Components: V, SDuration: 3 turns Casting Time: 5Area of Effect: 10 ft. × 30 yds. Saving Throw: None When a priest casts a find traps spell, all traps—concealed nor-mally or magically—of magical or mechanical nature become appar-ent to him. Note that this spell is directional, and the caster must facethe desired direction in order to determine if a trap is laid in thatparticular direction. A trap is any device or magical ward that meets three criteria: itcan inflict a sudden or unexpected result, the spellcaster would viewthe result as undesirable or harmful, and the harmful or undesirableresult was specifically intended as such by the creator. Thus, trapsinclude alarms, glyphs, and similar spells or devices. The caster learns the general nature of the trap (magical ormechanical) but not its exact effect, nor how to disarm it. Closeexamination will, however, enable the caster to sense whatintended actions might trigger it. Note that the caster’s divination islimited to his knowledge of what might be unexpected and harm-ful. The spell cannot predict actions of creatures (hence, a con-cealed murder hole or ambush is not a trap), nor are naturalhazards considered traps (a cavern that floods during a rain, a wallweakened by age, a naturally poisonous plant, etc.). If the DM isusing specific glyphs or sigils to identify magical wards (see the3rd-level spell glyph of warding), this spell shows the form of theglyph or mark. The spell does not detect traps that have beendisarmed or are otherwise inactive.[/spoiler]Even then a caster would rather a rogue do their thing because spell slots were important & resource attrition was a bigger thing.</blockquote>

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