Do Personal Opinions Of Authors, Etc Dissuade You From Purchases?

Do Personal Opinions Of Authors, Etc Dissuade You From Purchases?

  • Yes, Personal Opinions Have Meant A Lost Sale

    Votes: 124 50.4%
  • No, Personal Opinions Have Never Meant A Lost Sale

    Votes: 44 17.9%
  • No (But I Do Consider Personal Opinions A Factor)

    Votes: 68 27.6%
  • Other (Post To Explain In The Thread, You Crazy Person, You)

    Votes: 10 4.1%

big dummy said:
No, you are right lol :) It's not the best place to ask. Given the contraversial ideas I have broached in ENworld, and the very hostile responses I've recieved in some other recent threads, I would be crazy associating this pseudonym with any of my work, not to mention irresponsible toward any publishers I may or may not have worked with. I'd love to tell you about stuff I've done and stuff I'm working on, but I can't risk it.

Kind of a drag eh?

BD

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big dummy said:
I also think the glut on the market has made a lot of the players / consumers cynical and more willing to be arbitrary about what they buy and the reasons for it. Of course it's their choice, but it all also amounts to a situation as I described, where people, especially industry writers, are basically not going to even bring up certain issues. Issues which probably should be brought up.
See, I actually like the large number of products in the PDF market, and I buy many of them and find them to be much better than what WotC is churning out these days (other than the environment-based books like Stormwrack, the Tome of Magic for the Shadowcaster, and Heroes of Battle 'cause it was needed for my games). A certain person I mentioned earlier (but whose name I am now going to go edit out of my earlier post) expressed a very strong opinion about indie publishers, many of whom I've had a chance to chat with in the EN World chatroom or through threads and private messages. That didn't just annoy or offend me; it also dragged through the mud several respectable people I've come to enjoy associating with here on the forums. For that reason, said person no longer earns my business. Someone like you may disagree me once or twice, and some authors besides you might even annoy or offend me, but as long as we can establish rapport on something, then even if we won't agree on everything, I wouldn't boycott someone's products.
No, you are right lol :) It's not the best place to ask. Given the contraversial ideas I have broached in ENworld, and the very hostile responses I've recieved in some other recent threads, I would be crazy associating this pseudonym with any of my work, not to mention irresponsible toward any publishers I may or may not have worked with. I'd love to tell you about stuff I've done and stuff I'm working on, but I can't risk it.

Kind of a drag eh?

BD
It's better to be nice from the get-go so you don't end up in such a situation. You haven't lost me as a customer, though, so if you want you can fire me an email to tell me what you've done. If it's a book I think I can use, then I'll buy it regardless of what I think of your opinion on the weights of middle age swords. After all, if the product is a book of Rogue-oriented feats or a new spellcasting class, those kinds of opinions shouldn't matter, should they? ;)
 

big dummy said:
I know from experience that this alone can engender boycott threats.

Certainly.

big dummy said:
I also think the glut on the market has made a lot of the players / consumers cynical and more willing to be arbitrary about what they buy and the reasons for it. Of course it's their choice, but it all also amounts to a situation as I described, where people, especially industry writers, are basically not going to even bring up certain issues. Issues which probably should be brought up.

Well, if an issue needs to be brought up, and publishers/artists don't out of fear for their business, I can't say that I blame them, but the word to describe that is cowardice. Is it fair that the honest, "brave" publisher/artist that brings up the issue has his business suffer for it while the cowards profit by avoidance? No, it isn't. I, personally, don't think less of them, as I'm sure they have mouths to feed. That doesn't mean the issue won't be brought up, it just means the issue will have to wait for someone to brave that storm.

Of course, I can't think of any RPG industry "issues" that would be important enough for me to starve my family for. *shrug*

As a side note, I've seen that some of your quibbles about the current edition center around weaponry. Over in the house rules forum (I don't have the link, so maybe a kind member will search for it and post :D), someone posted an alternate weapon proficiency ruleset, wherein the idea was that it wasn't the weapon that was dangerous so much as it was the wielders skill. If someone posts the link to it, you should check it out.

big dummy said:
No, you are right lol :) It's not the best place to ask. Given the contraversial ideas I have broached in ENworld, and the very hostile responses I've recieved in some other recent threads, I would be crazy associating this pseudonym with any of my work, not to mention irresponsible toward any publishers I may or may not have worked with. I'd love to tell you about stuff I've done and stuff I'm working on, but I can't risk it.

Fair enough. Given the arguing tactic I saw you display in the weapons thread, I can definitely understand that. Email me if you like.
 

diaglo said:
are we allowed to name names and fill in our opinions on them?
diaglo, I have removed the name from my negative opinion, so I'd appreciate you removing the quote of my post from yours as well. That way nobody can figure out who the unnamed offender is by just looking at your post.

On a positive note as well as to back up my earlier statement that customer service matters, authors I will buy from specifically because of how nice they are on the forums:
  • Ryan "RangerWickett" Nock. Not only has he written some of my absolute favourite material, but he's always available on the forums to answer questions with courtesy.
  • The Le. Even his anecdotal books contain high-quality material, and they're very inexpensive. He's also a very generous person, giving out more free product than can be good for his business. I can just tell he loves writing gaming products.
  • David "Roudi" Gallant. He's always helpful with d20 Modern questions, and cares about fan input when writing. I'm looking forward to Mechævolutions.
  • F. J. "HeapThaumaturgist" Eastman. Before he wrote any gaming material, he was just another d20 Modern fan that helped me out with some house rule design in various threads. He's friendly and courteous even when he disagrees with someone. Though he hasn't written anything I have interest in yet, when he does I'll definitely buy.
  • Ari "Mouseferatu" Marmell. The Shadowcaster is cool, and I've never seen a discourteous post with the name Mouseferatu attached to it.
  • Tim "Ralts" Willard. I fell in love with his d20 Modern gaming material via the Future Fun thread, long before I learned he was the author of Year of the Zombie. I'll buy anything he puts out on the market.
There are a number of Enworlders that would be on this list if they started publishing. Being friendly and polite is almost never bad for business.
 

genshou said:
diaglo, I have removed the name from my negative opinion, so I'd appreciate you removing the quote of my post from yours as well. That way nobody can figure out who the unnamed offender is by just looking at your post.


done. :D
 

Rodrigo Istalindir said:
Not the opinions, per se, but there are some whose manner of expressing those opinions I find obnoxious, and from whom I've made a decision not to buy there product. Pretty few and far between, though.

I don't mind a contrary belief or one I find disagreeable in some way so long as its expressed in a civil manner.

That's pretty much where I am as well.

There are only two names on the list, which I think is pretty good all told :)

But yes, the manner in which they comport themselves can cost them my business (as it can for anyone they work with).
 

There are a few out there who absolutely will not get my money. period. Why? No need to go into it. They know what they did.

Then there are those who get an automatic pass from me, including Mona, Cordell, and of course Monte. They could smear feces on my front door and I would still buy their books.

The rest of you will have to earn it the hard way.
 

DaveMage said:
Yes, the personal opinions have influenced me.

In a positive way, I've bought products I never would have bought because the authors represented themselves very well here. (I mean, how can you not want to buy from Joe & Suzi?)

On the negative side, there is one author I would never buy from because of the way that author has conducted himself on these boards.

However, I will say that an author's political and personal views do not impact my buying in any way - only their conduct.

Could not agree more...right down to the Joe and Suzi (XRP) opinion:)
 

Bid Dummy.. First, note that I think you stated your views in a civil fashion, and I would certainly not -not- buy your products due to posts you made.

That said, I need to point out something.

You stated that it wasn't right, in your opinion, for people to boycott products from certain authors due to them stating their opinions/being jerks, since it restricted their freedom of speech/opinion.

Yet, in this very thread, you stated that you were glad you stopped writing D20 products, and certainly wouldn't consider writing more, because of that very fact. So, basically, you boycotted the D20 industry. Which, in turn, restricts the consumers freedom of speech, doesn't it? I mean, if they state that said writer is a jerk, he'll stop making D20 products..
 

Barak said:
Bid Dummy.. First, note that I think you stated your views in a civil fashion, and I would certainly not -not- buy your products due to posts you made.

That said, I need to point out something.

You stated that it wasn't right, in your opinion, for people to boycott products from certain authors due to them stating their opinions/being jerks, since it restricted their freedom of speech/opinion.

Yet, in this very thread, you stated that you were glad you stopped writing D20 products, and certainly wouldn't consider writing more, because of that very fact. So, basically, you boycotted the D20 industry. Which, in turn, restricts the consumers freedom of speech, doesn't it? I mean, if they state that said writer is a jerk, he'll stop making D20 products..

I can understand what you are saying, but I don't personally feel it is the same thing.

Lets say hypothetically you spend six months working on some project for maybe $500. Then after another six months it finally comes out (and you finally get paid).

Being naive, perhaps overly excited due to seeing your work in print, you make the mistake of speaking honestly on some fourm.

You have now instantly acquired a handful of permanent enemies who openly declare their determination to do anything they can to harm you including boycotting or undermining your work by any means possible.

If they have any connections in the industry or enough time on their hands (or both) there is a good chance that they can and will obscure by controversy or even sabotage (a planted review, say) or somehow otherwise prevent positive buzz from building at least until the very short window in which it might get noticed passes... meanwhile, if you didn't back down right away leaving any number of (what you consider to be) disparaging lies unanswered, you may have even aquired a few hard core stalkers.

Your six months of work and contribution to the D&D world soon disappears beneath the rising flood of D20. It's never even been evaluated on it's true merits. It's just gone, with this sort of dirty smear of nasty bickering to permanently mark it's passing on the internet. Your publisher has recieved hate mail and no longer wishes to work with you.

...

Meanwhile, another book you wrote around the same time for an independent game is published. It was maybe half the work as the other job because as long as it's technically accurate, you don't have to worry so much about issues like perfect balance or not offending the existing D20 culture, (it's GM's are a bit more accustomed to tailoring things to suit their own campaigns in this game.) You still make the same lousy $500 but when the work comes out, the fans actually use it, test it out, and many even apparently like it. It has an impact on the game. You make friends, some of whom you may work with in the future on other projects. Online you have interesting conversations about gaming, about numerous technical subjects related to your book. You pick up no stalkers. You even get good reviews.

It's kind of a no brainer.

BD

(Not that er... any of this happened to me necessarily you understand :uhoh: I'm just inventing a hypothetical situation based on what I er happen to know about some examples of writers in the relative industries...)
 
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