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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3713981" data-attributes="member: 31734">You can PA for +10, use ICR for +10 AC, and attack at -20.  And I made no comments about whether it was a good or bad idea, just that something in your assumptions didn't compute.  More importantly, I made the comment that the pluses are important on the weapon because they affect your attack bonus (not BAB), thus alleviating some of that penalty; i.e. you need the pluses to be able to hit at full PA/ICE.The other major benefit of the pluses is the bonus to hardness and hit points.  Also, the house rule to modify DR/magic to +1 per 5 points of DR is common.  This change you propose negatively affects that as well.In short I just don't see a problem here that needs solving.  What major problem exists?  I reread the thread and didn't see why you or anyone else think pluses on weapons/armor is bad design.</blockquote>