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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 3716312" data-attributes="member: 31734">If the rules are too complex, that is a problem that could be addressed.&nbsp; I wasn't sure that was your goal. To be honest, I do agree with your fundamental problem, that there are too many modifiers at high level.&nbsp; With every little buff, or de-buff, or on-the-fly modifier, it creates a huge hassle to track.&nbsp; Not everyone has a handy laptop or palmtop to keep track of all the processing required either (D&amp;D is still pen &amp; paper, maybe it should be P&amp;P).That said, I agree with your desire, but I don't think trading one set of pluses for another, identical set helps.&nbsp; The reason why it doesn't help is because for the most part, high-level characters will use the same weapon.&nbsp; Even when they switch, tracking the pluses from the weapon is the easy part.&nbsp; Tracking haste, bless, prayer, strength damage (oh man that's a huge pain if you take 1 point every other hit at 17th level), etc. sucks.&nbsp; But, quite frankly I don't see a good solution for it at the moment.Anyways, as you work through this issue, I urge you to think about how the magical pluses improve the weapon/armor toughness.&nbsp; As a mage, I would spend a lot of money making my 150,000 gp staff indestructible and requiring him to take 5 Fighter feats would be unacceptable.&nbsp; Perhaps you could provide some enhancements that merely improve hardness / hit points (but cheaper).&nbsp; That would be even better for wizards, sorcerers, and the like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 3716312, member: 31734"] If the rules are too complex, that is a problem that could be addressed. I wasn't sure that was your goal. To be honest, I do agree with your fundamental problem, that there are too many modifiers at high level. With every little buff, or de-buff, or on-the-fly modifier, it creates a huge hassle to track. Not everyone has a handy laptop or palmtop to keep track of all the processing required either (D&D is still pen & paper, maybe it should be P&P). That said, I agree with your desire, but I don't think trading one set of pluses for another, identical set helps. The reason why it doesn't help is because for the most part, high-level characters will use the same weapon. Even when they switch, tracking the pluses from the weapon is the easy part. Tracking haste, bless, prayer, strength damage (oh man that's a huge pain if you take 1 point every other hit at 17th level), etc. sucks. But, quite frankly I don't see a good solution for it at the moment. Anyways, as you work through this issue, I urge you to think about how the magical pluses improve the weapon/armor toughness. As a mage, I would spend a lot of money making my 150,000 gp staff indestructible and requiring him to take 5 Fighter feats would be unacceptable. Perhaps you could provide some enhancements that merely improve hardness / hit points (but cheaper). That would be even better for wizards, sorcerers, and the like. [/QUOTE]

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