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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7935484" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Properly played, an archmage will destroy a party of 5th level PCs.I know, because that is exactly what happened to our party and why one of our characters had to be reincarnated instead of raised (the body was certainly not in condition for raising). He also killed every other character but our rogue who managed to hide from him and evade discovery. He left, but not before telling the rogue he has 24 hours to leave and take the townspeople with him otherwise he would kill everyone. A spirit naga, which we rescued from the black dragon we killed, raised one of our comrades that day. We all left (including the naga, which later raised the others the archmage had killed) and our goal is to someday return and free the region from his control.But like you say, its anecdotal. Depending on the set-up and rolls, a CR 12 monster against a 6-member party of 5th level PC should be a moderate encounter under most conditions. The situation and rolls will determine a lot.Anyway, with casters they either have to be prepped for combat or have soldiers to protect them in some fashion. They realize they are physically weaker and should avoid direct confrontation. Our DM makes the casters we face more than enough of a challenge. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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