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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6562695" data-attributes="member: 6689464">I hate wizards, I can't stand them, no refluffing is enough for me to stomach one. Bard is good, but still carries too much baggage to serve as a sorcerer.Not the same, sorcerer and wizard are closer to barbarian and fighter than to rogue and fighter. As such you should be able to more or less use one for another. In 3e the sorcerer wasn't able to bring the same amount of options that a wizard could, wizards had more spell variety at any time. You couldn't really compete at strategical versatility, but in tactical versatility you were the best, you could pick a niche (any niche) and excel at it, having all of your options all the time and outlasting the wizard. Now the wizard has gained that overall versatility, he can bring more options to the table as a generalist than you can as a niche caster, and you now lack the options to specialize on any niche other than blaster. And he now outlasts you on top of it. That the only two options now are monster and walking timebomb don't help either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6562695, member: 6689464"] I hate wizards, I can't stand them, no refluffing is enough for me to stomach one. Bard is good, but still carries too much baggage to serve as a sorcerer. Not the same, sorcerer and wizard are closer to barbarian and fighter than to rogue and fighter. As such you should be able to more or less use one for another. In 3e the sorcerer wasn't able to bring the same amount of options that a wizard could, wizards had more spell variety at any time. You couldn't really compete at strategical versatility, but in tactical versatility you were the best, you could pick a niche (any niche) and excel at it, having all of your options all the time and outlasting the wizard. Now the wizard has gained that overall versatility, he can bring more options to the table as a generalist than you can as a niche caster, and you now lack the options to specialize on any niche other than blaster. And he now outlasts you on top of it. That the only two options now are monster and walking timebomb don't help either. [/QUOTE]

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