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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6563646" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>This single change is what breaks it for me, just because the wizard is more sorcerer-like doesn't mean the sorcerer is not needed anymore. The wizard still can't be a focused niche caster and be credible at it. And the story of the wizard is still so limited. On top of it, the wizard still represents a scientific approach to magic that just rubs me the wrong way. And it being the proverbial square peg in the round hole by claiming to be the generic caster when in truth is far from it doesn't help matters. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You called it blandly undifferentiated, I call it more open. What few people want to admit is that the 3e sorcerer made -conceptually - the wizard completely redundant. You could ban the 3e wizard and still have the same stories and the same PCs, but it cannot be done in reverse. </p><p></p><p>Refflufing and houserules don't help in here. You cannot assume I've got access to a certain houserule, and if you could I'd rather convince a DM to allow the BG sorcerer on a 2e game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the named spells thing was harsh. And for blasting, warlocks and wizards can still be blasters and run with it. Limiting sorcerers on the niches they could occupy was uncalled for.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I just know that just like Elsa is popular today, Sabrina was in the 90's, they don't fit in the wizard class, but are at home under the sorcerer. if only an Elsa build were supported by the current edition D&D would have an explosion of new blood, I don't get the refusal to allow those kinds of PCs, is it because they are female characters that are most obviously outside the D&D wizard ? is there a misogynist assumption that they have to be excluded or something?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6563646, member: 6689464"] This single change is what breaks it for me, just because the wizard is more sorcerer-like doesn't mean the sorcerer is not needed anymore. The wizard still can't be a focused niche caster and be credible at it. And the story of the wizard is still so limited. On top of it, the wizard still represents a scientific approach to magic that just rubs me the wrong way. And it being the proverbial square peg in the round hole by claiming to be the generic caster when in truth is far from it doesn't help matters. You called it blandly undifferentiated, I call it more open. What few people want to admit is that the 3e sorcerer made -conceptually - the wizard completely redundant. You could ban the 3e wizard and still have the same stories and the same PCs, but it cannot be done in reverse. Refflufing and houserules don't help in here. You cannot assume I've got access to a certain houserule, and if you could I'd rather convince a DM to allow the BG sorcerer on a 2e game. Yes, the named spells thing was harsh. And for blasting, warlocks and wizards can still be blasters and run with it. Limiting sorcerers on the niches they could occupy was uncalled for. I just know that just like Elsa is popular today, Sabrina was in the 90's, they don't fit in the wizard class, but are at home under the sorcerer. if only an Elsa build were supported by the current edition D&D would have an explosion of new blood, I don't get the refusal to allow those kinds of PCs, is it because they are female characters that are most obviously outside the D&D wizard ? is there a misogynist assumption that they have to be excluded or something? [/QUOTE]
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