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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6563691" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>The Olaf-Anna scene was pretty good, and I did like that familial love was love and the focus on the relationship between the sisters... I just think that they staged that badly. Compare with 'Tangled', which neatly resolves all the dangling relationships that have been driving the conflict, 'Frozen' does it's thread tying together quite weakly with very little reference to what's gone before and a magical technobabble explanation for the reversing of the death of Anna that doesn't quite come off. Yes, obviously, it was always going to be the love between the sisters that was the resolution of the stories primary conflict, but it not only appears to come seconds too late, but the act of love and sacrifice goes in the wrong direction. It's a strange thing indeed that Anna's own act of love can thaw herself, and if isn't her act by Elsa's reciprocal feeling then isn't it a bit too late for that now that she's dead?</p><p></p><p>Forget 'Tangled'. Try the underrated 'Wreck it Ralph'. Again, we have an ending where all the elements of the ending have been properly foreshadowed and all play a role in tying up all the loose relationship threads that have been driving the conflict. </p><p></p><p>'Frozen' by comparison seems terribly contrived and weak, with emotional peaks that have occurred much earlier in the story. We are deprived of a proper cathartic epiphany, and left with a story where tragedy seems a more appropriate means of tying up the story.</p><p></p><p>I can honestly say I have no memory of 'fixer upper'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hans "coup" was among other acts of villainy an attempt to kill both sisters, with one plot amounting to death by slow torture. I'd say he was by the count of 2 to 1, rather more wicked than the wicked Queen in 'Snow White'. Worse, because we haven't established before hand in any way Hans behavior would be treated as disgraceful by his family (even by for example, establishing at Hans is afraid of his parents and of a very different character), we are left to wonder whether or not he's going to be punished at all. It's quite possible that he comes from a family of self-centered villainous types, and has indulgent parents quick to excuse any excess their 'boys' engage in whatsoever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6563691, member: 4937"] The Olaf-Anna scene was pretty good, and I did like that familial love was love and the focus on the relationship between the sisters... I just think that they staged that badly. Compare with 'Tangled', which neatly resolves all the dangling relationships that have been driving the conflict, 'Frozen' does it's thread tying together quite weakly with very little reference to what's gone before and a magical technobabble explanation for the reversing of the death of Anna that doesn't quite come off. Yes, obviously, it was always going to be the love between the sisters that was the resolution of the stories primary conflict, but it not only appears to come seconds too late, but the act of love and sacrifice goes in the wrong direction. It's a strange thing indeed that Anna's own act of love can thaw herself, and if isn't her act by Elsa's reciprocal feeling then isn't it a bit too late for that now that she's dead? Forget 'Tangled'. Try the underrated 'Wreck it Ralph'. Again, we have an ending where all the elements of the ending have been properly foreshadowed and all play a role in tying up all the loose relationship threads that have been driving the conflict. 'Frozen' by comparison seems terribly contrived and weak, with emotional peaks that have occurred much earlier in the story. We are deprived of a proper cathartic epiphany, and left with a story where tragedy seems a more appropriate means of tying up the story. I can honestly say I have no memory of 'fixer upper'. Hans "coup" was among other acts of villainy an attempt to kill both sisters, with one plot amounting to death by slow torture. I'd say he was by the count of 2 to 1, rather more wicked than the wicked Queen in 'Snow White'. Worse, because we haven't established before hand in any way Hans behavior would be treated as disgraceful by his family (even by for example, establishing at Hans is afraid of his parents and of a very different character), we are left to wonder whether or not he's going to be punished at all. It's quite possible that he comes from a family of self-centered villainous types, and has indulgent parents quick to excuse any excess their 'boys' engage in whatsoever. [/QUOTE]
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