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Do you get two attacks if you ready against a spellcaster?

Skoal

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Say you ready an attack to disrupt a spellcaster. Do you get an attack because your ready trigger has been satisfied and another one as an attack of opportunity since the spellcaster is casting in an area you threaten?
 

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Why ready? If you are in position to threaten him, you might as well just attack with a full round action. Then take the AoO when he starts casting.
 

Spove said:
Why ready? If you are in position to threaten him, you might as well just attack with a full round action. Then take the AoO when he starts casting.

Because spellcasters can cast defensively [Concentration (DC 15 + Spell Level)] which does not provoke an AoO. Also, if there in a position to do so, a spellcaster can simply take a 5 foot step before casting so a single individual no longer threatens them while they are spellcasting.
 

Skoal said:
Nevermind. I just read the part of the faq that says you don't get the attack of opportunity?

Where in the faq does it say that? Certainly there are situations where you wouldn't get the AoO (like if the caster casts defensively, or steps out of your reach), but in the general case I can't imagine why you wouldn't get the AoO.
 

I thought of readying since most spellcasters my dm brings against us tumble away before they cast. But your right. It's always best to kill the wizards as soon as possible even if they end up casting a spell or two.
 

Dr_Rictus said:


Where in the faq does it say that? Certainly there are situations where you wouldn't get the AoO (like if the caster casts defensively, or steps out of your reach), but in the general case I can't imagine why you wouldn't get the AoO.

On the bottom of page 33 of the FAQ v.06132002.
 

Yeah, Skoal is correct. It does state in the FAQ that you don't get the AoO. Fortunately, it's not errata and simply advice. This is one of those moments where I would have to disagree with the Sage. If the caster puts himself in a position that purposfully provokes an AoO then I think the opponent deserves their AoO regardless of whether or not they are also making a readied attack action. It all comes down to the fact that if the caster is taking a risk by staying within a threatened area and casting normally. Combat risks often have dire consequences. Otherwise, if the caster knows the player has a readied action to attack when he casts a spell then he wouldn't even bother combat casting because he wouldn't be provoking an attack of opportunity and only has to make a concentration roll if he gets hit instead of having to make two separate concentration rolls if he gets hit.
 

Mr.Binx said:
This is one of those moments where I would have to disagree with the Sage.
I would have to agree. There are other situations that come up when a readied action plus AoO would happen. For example, you ready an action to swing at someone when they get within 5-ft. of you. You swing. They continue to move drawing an AoO. You swing. This is really no different than the aforementioned scenario.

Perhaps the Sage would rule that my scenario doesn't draw an AoO either...

/ds
 
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You get both.

Perhaps you are reading the FAQ differently from me? This is discussing the situation of trying to prevent the spellcaster or archer stepping back 5' to avoid an AoO from you.

...You also could do the following: Ready an action so that when the archer [or spellcaster] steps away from you, you make a partial charge against him or just a 5-foot step and an attack). When you've finished your attack, he's within your reach and you'll get an attack of opportunity against him if he tries to shoot [or cast]...
 

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