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<blockquote data-quote="machineelf" data-source="post: 7157740" data-attributes="member: 6774924">Have you actually played a monk yourself? I ask because in my experience, at low levels, a monk burns through ki in half of medium-length a fight, or if you're conservative with ki, they will last one fight. Monks don't rely on ki only, of course, but ki is a big part of what drives the monk's abilities. Without ki, monks are very limited, even with their few abilities that don't require ki.You don't think that at 4th level having only four ki is a little on the ridiculous side? If a monk uses a ki point to do patient doge, and then uses a ki point to do flurry of blows, then the monk is out of ki after two rounds. If the monk is more conservative, he may be out of ki after four rounds. And that's it until the next short rest. Perhaps the difference in opinion comes down to how often the DM allows short rests, which will of course make a huge difference. But in our game we don't have short rests until after three or four fights in a big dungeon, for example. So, for most of that time, the monk is just plain out of ki. My proposal isn't a big bump, just a slight one, like I said. But I think it would balance things much better, and the monk would definitely not be overpowered by having 6 ki instead of 4 at 4th level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="machineelf, post: 7157740, member: 6774924"] Have you actually played a monk yourself? I ask because in my experience, at low levels, a monk burns through ki in half of medium-length a fight, or if you're conservative with ki, they will last one fight. Monks don't rely on ki only, of course, but ki is a big part of what drives the monk's abilities. Without ki, monks are very limited, even with their few abilities that don't require ki. You don't think that at 4th level having only four ki is a little on the ridiculous side? If a monk uses a ki point to do patient doge, and then uses a ki point to do flurry of blows, then the monk is out of ki after two rounds. If the monk is more conservative, he may be out of ki after four rounds. And that's it until the next short rest. Perhaps the difference in opinion comes down to how often the DM allows short rests, which will of course make a huge difference. But in our game we don't have short rests until after three or four fights in a big dungeon, for example. So, for most of that time, the monk is just plain out of ki. My proposal isn't a big bump, just a slight one, like I said. But I think it would balance things much better, and the monk would definitely not be overpowered by having 6 ki instead of 4 at 4th level. [/QUOTE]

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