Do your expectations of a product change . . .

Are your opinions of products based more on the publisher than the actual product?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 39.1%
  • No

    Votes: 78 60.9%

My answer is best expressed by "Yes, but ... No, but...", so I answered "Yes".

There are a number of companies (Green Ronin and Malhavoc are at the top of that list, WotC is not) where I am quite willing to give an immediate look at almost any product they come out with. This does not mean that I will buy it, but that I am willing to give it a chance. Equally there are certain companies (no names here, but not WotC) that simply because of their name I would have to think very, very hard about picking up a product from them even if it is on a topic that would work immediately and directly into my current campaign. And there are several other companies that I know put out good product, but simply have never put out anything that works with my gaming style.

That being said, I am more drawn to a topic than I am to a particular publisher. Given the choice between a supplement by "Fill In Name Of Random Company Here" that covers something I would want to delve into and a Green Ronin book that covers a very different topic, I would take the "Random Company" over the Green Ronin. First and foremost, the book has to be something that I would want/need for my campaign. The publisher is a secondary, but still important, consideration.
 

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i expect (after buying, using, reading, playtesting and other)... anything by certain publishers (WotC) to be crap. and 99 times out of 100 this still holds true.

out of smaller publishers i don't know, i hope for the best. but my FLGS doesn't usually carry their stuff. so even then i can't say much about them.

out of mid level publishers, i can buy stuff from... it is hard to say. some of them produce so few products in my area.. that 1 bad one does not a rating make. nor does 1 good product. even 1 out of say 4 isn't a good determining factor.
 

I expect different things from different publishers. Clearly, WotC has the advantage in anything that requires expenses and large quantity of product. However, as a large company, they have communication issues. Even a former employee of WotC has pointed out here that products are sometimes at the whim of a "suit" that happens to be walking by a meeting, decides to walk in and make changes to a product or line.

Smaller publishers tend to have their own personalities. The less people involved, the stronger the flavor. While a number of designers work for Malhavoc, clearly Monte's vision drives the company. Mongoose, on the other hand, has a more fragmented personality with different products have widely different flavors that depend on which designers are working on it.
 

I expect WOTC products to be of better quality and to use the rules the most correctly, they have the most to invest in a product.

But I will use any product that suits my needs or can be made to do so regardless of who made it.
 

There are a number of companies (Green Ronin and Malhavoc are at the top of that list, WotC is not) where I am quite willing to give an immediate look at almost any product they come out with. This does not mean that I will buy it, but that I am willing to give it a chance. Equally there are certain companies (no names here, but not WotC) that simply because of their name I would have to think very, very hard about picking up a product from them even if it is on a topic that would work immediately and directly into my current campaign.

Ditto, though I would change "Green Ronin and Malhavoc" to "Fantsay Flight" and "White Wolf".

So, I picked "Yes" my expectations for products do change based on the publishers. Sometimes substansially, but most times only slightly.
 

Surely the fact that the publisher is so often considered instead of the author, for instance here and with the ENnies, by itself indicates that publishers -- and their visible logos, trade dress, layout, etc., which we know are a big factor in purchasing -- do unduly influence people's perception of d20 books to some extent.
 

I think I become attracted to products more because of my relationship with the publishers than the products themselves. For instance, there are a couple of publishers whose products I refuse to buy because I don't like who produces them (in one case, I feel sorry because that publisher employs some very talented writers, and I am missing out on their good work just to spite the jerk of a publisher from getting my money).

On the other hand, there are products out there that I might never have desired, except my good relations with their publishers / writers has improved my opinion of them. For example, I might never have wanted to get Dawning Star if it weren't for the sweet full-page ad they gave me for MODERNIZED's second issue. I tend to desire products from RPGObjects partially because of my good working relationship with them. And I loved the kooky stuff coming from TheLe so much that I actually started to freelance for him.

I'm probably a minority, but most of my purchases are motivated by my opinion of the publisher first and by the actual product second.
 

My expectations? Abso-frootin-tootin-lutely.

Because of the ridiculous amount of d20 product available, I immediately look to certain publishers first because of what I expect from them, and use that to filter the available products.
 


I voted "no." A lot of times I go off of what is said here on the boards more than anything, if people like it I might buy it. But then again, I didn't buy any of the WoTC Environment Series or Races of "X." As good as they sound I just don't need them in my kitchen sink game...
 

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