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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 8554831" data-attributes="member: 6777737">I think it's a perfectly workable system. I don't think 30 levels was the right approach, though. That's just too much, especially when they split up the game so that you got a bonus on one level and new powers on another. It led to the hugely inflated HP values, which ended up being it's own problem. I don't think the core books should ever have more than 20 levels. I don't think the lockstep bonuses worked well, either. In general, though, I'd rather have 5e's bounded accuracy and 4e's narrowed scope of abilities. Essentials was on the right path, but WotC abandoned the game. I think they should revive it as another game. 5e and 4e offer totally different play styles. Why should WotC be happy players unsatisfied with 5e want to go to Pathfinder 2? Why not let them go to 4e and stay a WotC customer? They ought to have the money to do it now.A 4e style TTRPG with 5e proficiency bonus, 4e monsters, 4e combat rules, 4e defenses and stats, no enhancement bonuses from magic items, abilities on cards, preferably a companion app. Limit it to 20 levels. Call it Heroes of The Forgotten Realms. Just don't call it AD&D. The worst idea would be to have that stupid "Advanced" argument from the 80s again.</blockquote>