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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RyvenCedrylle" data-source="post: 4486398" data-attributes="member: 66726">I've gotta go with the Mouse on this one.  Something's just not right about being unable to disarm an opponent because it upsets the game balance or is somehow 'unfair.'  Now, what to do about it...   The basic concept of disarm is "I knock your weapon out of your hand and put my blade to your throat."  It's an 'I win' button, really.  Do we have an 'I win' button in 4E combat?  Why yes we do, ladies and gents, it's the Intimidate check!  I don't have my PHB with me right now but IIRC, you may make an Intimidate check against a bloodied opponent to force them to surrender so long as you can do so in a language the foe understands.  EVERYONE understands the disarm/blade-to-the-throat. My houserule would be that you can make an Intimidate check substituting the weapon's stat (either STR or DEX) for CHA to disarm and defeat an opponent. Why not make it some kind of combat action like in 3E?  Because disarming a foe results in either A) nothing, she goes and picks up her weapon or B) he is immediately swarmed and overwhelmed/you take his weapon and beat him with it.  Hence the disarm, for practical purposes, needs to be a 'save or suck' idea FOR THE PCs. I believe the OP, however, was interested in disarming the PCs.  Totally different idea.  I'm going to agree with several folks that the power should be a recharge (5,6 or just 6);mine would use the opponent's best attack bonus and a hit causes the PCs weapon to drop in their own square and does 1[W] of damage (mostly frustration and demoralization).  Don't take a PCs big nasty weapon unless you've got some narrative to back it up.</blockquote>

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