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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 4486566" data-attributes="member: 1288">Wasting a turn in combat for something that has a tiny chance of success--and that, even if it succeeds, probably isn't going to impede the enemy for that long--is not a tactically sound decision.You keep talking as though taking away the weapon is a major impediment for the entire fight. But...A) If it fails, and there are OAs involved (as there would be in our hypothetical scenario), you've opened yourself up to extra damage--and your chances of failure, and thus of extra damage, are much higher than your chances of success. Plus, even if you succeed, if the OA allows a chance to re-grab the weapon (again, as we've established it would in our hypothetical), you may have completely wasted your turn.B) Even if it succeeds, your enemy has various possible ways of getting his weapon back--or, at worst, of getting his allies to concentrate on that foe until he drops, then retrieving his weapon and getting back into the fight against the others.C) I have never seen any character at high levels--and if we're talking about +5 or +6 weapons, we're talking about high levels--that didn't have at least one potent backup weapon. Sure, it's not as powerful, but suddenly, we're not talking about a difference of +5 or +6; we're talking about maybe +3.D) Assuming you have even slightly tactically-minded PCs, it doesn't usually take more than half a dozen rounds (IME, anyway), for any given non-elite and non-solo enemy to fall. So if each enemy has only 6 or fewer rounds of action, on average, wasting one on something with less than a 20% chance of success, to impose what likely amounts to either a temporary or a small penalty, simply isn't tactically sound.Again, it's gotten quite complex at this point, and I don't see it happening that often. But the notion that disarming is still a solid tactic even with a huge penalty and a potential OA just doesn't ring true that often in my experience. Are there some situations where it's the best bet? Probably; but they're in the minority, IME.</blockquote>

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