Does anyone actually like Dragonborn and Tieflings?

[pukunui]

I like both the tiefling and the dragonborn. My only beefs with them are art-related only ... I hate the tieflings' massive horns and ridiculous crocodile tails, and I'm not sure about dragonborn boobs, but other than, they're cool. No issues.

 

[wedgeski]

They're an interesting new ingredient in the D&D stew and I'm right behind them, much to the surprise of the OP, or so it sounds. I'm also a big supporter of the decision to dump half-orcs, although I really don't understand why the half-elf wasn't excised at the same time.

Edit: Oops my avatar seems to cause the new boards a bit of pain.

 

[GnomeWorks]

I find dragonborn to be really awkward and not very fitting with the rest of the core races.

I don't like the new direction for tieflings. I liked the 3.x presentation much more.

 

[Weekend Wizard]

While flipping through the 4th Edition books in a Border's Comfy Chair, I almost dropped them in horror after seeing the Dragonborn being presented as a "core" race.

This was almost a "deal-breaker" for me in even looking at 4th Edition D&D, but I have struggled past it somehow in a good-faith attempt to judge if playing this new level of "kiddie RPGing" is even possible for someone like me who is so far outside their target market.

My problem with these new "standard" player races is that I won't be able to keep a straight face during a gaming session with any "dragonfurry" character in it b/c I will be thinking of this the whole time:
Your typical 4th Edition D&D adventuring party:

Pufnstuf the Dragonborn Warlord, Jimmy the halfling?/ugly human? Rogue, and Witchiepoo the Tiefling? Warlock

Oh, here's the link if you were too young to have had this inflicted on you (or were too chemically-altered back then to remember it clearly)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-yLYz6ejqw[/ame]
I just can't adventure while maintaining any significant sense of "suspension of disbelief" with this kind of cheese in my roleplaying game, sorry.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Strange, I feel as if have seen this before... Is it a psychlogical deja-vu, or was this posted before?

 

[Jan van Leyden]

I like both of them but will reserve my final judgment 'til I've had more experience.

In the new 6-player-game we just started, we have two Dragonborn and one Tiefling (dwarf, half-elf and halfling making up the rest). I - as DM - ususally prefer more humanocentric games, but have decided to let the players try out the new options to their hearts' delight. Let's see how long they are satisifed with the new races.

I, for one, am not missing the gnome and the half-orc. Gnomes have never been attractive and the two half-orcs I experienced in 3.x were very clichéd.

And for the record: I started playing and mostly DMing 25 years ago; all of my players but one have at least 12 years experience as well.

Huldvoll

Jan van Leyden

 

[GnomeWorks]

Strange, I feel as if have seen this before... Is it a psychlogical deja-vu, or was this posted before?

Nevermind.

 

[AtomicPope]

Now that [gnomes and half-orcs] are gone, there's no reason to hate on them. So the haters are quiet, while the people who loved them are noisy.

True. I've played D&D for decades and Gnomes and Half Orcs are rarely played. In fact, the stress on Strength as "teh best stat evar" for 3e made pure Orcs more popular that either combined for that edition.

In my current game there are several Humans, one Orc, one Dwarf, one Dragonborn and one Tiefling. The extra At Will is a selling point for Humans.

I love both Dragonborns and Tieflings. The only races I've never been crazy about are the "half" races - elf and orc alike. I prefer the separate origins approach. There's no miscegenation between species. Minotaurs didn't come about from bull fancy so why half orcs?

 

[Jack99]

I love both with a fiery passion... Although I do prefer the planescape tiefling from 2e/3.x (look-wise) and will probably change that for my second campaign. The first one goes pretty much by the book.

On a side-note, I have to wonder how many of those that responded with a negative answer to both races actually play 4e.

 

[Tervin]

I like both the tiefling and the dragonborn. My only beefs with them are art-related only ... I hate the tieflings' massive horns and ridiculous crocodile tails, and I'm not sure about dragonborn boobs, but other than, they're cool. No issues.

I don't like those features either. On the other hand art is easy to ignore. My inner visions of the races are somehow always a lot cooler to me.