D&D (2024) Does anyone else think that 1D&D will create a significant divide in the community?

[UngeheuerLich]

Except they are replacing the classes, and the races/species, and the spell system, and many of the feats, and many conditions, and exhaustion...

See my edit.

 

[mamba]

I used 5e stuff from multiple 3pps, including several classes. Has not been a problem, because they are all based on the 2014 PH.

Yes, that is my point, they are all sufficiently compatible, as 1DD will be. But @GMforPowergamers says if you have a different exhaustion rule, you are no longer compatible. Well, Tasha is changing the way racial ASIs work, so at least as much of a change...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

no, that just means the rules are not identical, it says nothing about compatibility. Heck Tasha's racial bonus rules are different from the PHB ones, does that mean the two are not compatible books? If so, why has no one brought this up in the last 3 or so years....

it has been argued to death here... I have seen it at the 1 con I have been to since covid argued... The local comic store/game store has a guy who says Tasha's even as optional is showing WotC wont continue 5e as is... I think someone in this very thread has said as much as well...

maybe YOU have not heard it.

no one said 2e is compatible with 5e, so off to a good start... you also do mix and match (you take a 5e race, the 5e spells but the 2e spell slots...) so this is whacky, but I do not consider it much of an example for what we were saying. Sure, you can houserule anything, but there is no compatibility between a 2e char and a 5e char, you had to houserule a lot (and did) to get any semblance of that.

again they are changing how spells overall function and indvidual spells for 2024, so this breaks down again.

To me this just shows that you do not really care what anyone says and the questions you asked were just rhetorical.

and to me it sound like you are argueing weith some pont I am not making so you can win an argument on the internet instead of responding to what I am saying

Sure, you can create an amalgamation and make it work, but compatibility means you do not need to do so. Incompatibility means you have to in order to make it work.

except you STILL need to with what we have seen

 

[GMforPowergamers]

All the answers to @GMforPowergamers questions were. I meant everyone replying to them, not literally everyone on the face of the Earth.

wait people arguing against me all oppose me... news flash that is how arguments work

 

[GMforPowergamers]

People often tend to "like" posts they agree with and respond to posts they don't. It means nothing more than that.

I better quote you on top of liking to show I agree or else it looks like no one agrees with you

 

[mamba]

wait people arguing against me all oppose me... news flash that is how arguments work

people answering the questions you are asking all disagree with your take, not the same thing

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I figured, because you have a fundamentally different idea of what compatibility is.

and I explained what it is... I have even REEXPLAINED IT

so I can if backwards compatable bring a 2014phb and play in a 2024 book without updating unless the game has house rules...

I can not, the rules are diffrent, and the most likely (but not only) answer is for me to update to useing the newer rules.

this isn't a set of options in a splat book like tasha's that says "here are some alt rules to modify your D&D experience" these are the core books with the new default rules and they are changing them

So, can I bring any 5e compatible class from any publisher to your table and you are ok with that or would you reject some? If not, then 5e already is not compatible with itself. Heck, Tasha is already not compatible with 5e according to your definition.

and again

this isn't a set of options in a splat book like tasha's that says "here are some alt rules to modify your D&D experience" these are the core books with the new default rules and they are changing them

1DD is just some more additional classes for 5e (or 5e some more additional classes for 1DD...)

if it was additional classes (even not withstanding having the same name and concept) that would be one thing...
this is new classes new races new feats new spells... and not just "add these" but rewrites to change them... and at the core level new conditions, changes to conditions new weapon rewrites... and more

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Sorry, its still very early on the west coast. I just woke up.

I am quoting this and liking it to show support...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Except they are replacing the classes, and the races/species, and the spell system, and many of the feats, and many conditions, and exhaustion...

I am quoting this to show my support... I can't imagine this is productive, but I guess if we don't quote to respond we are seen as not agreeing

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Yes, that is my point, they are all sufficiently compatible, as 1DD will be. But @GMforPowergamers says if you have a different exhaustion rule, you are no longer compatible. Well, Tasha is changing the way racial ASIs work, so at least as much of a change...

tasha's has option that bring the 2014 book more in line with the 2024 playtest... it doesn't rewrite them in the core assumption of the game, and even still people complain about optional rules