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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 9225127" data-attributes="member: 907"><p>If TSR remains, there is no 3e-style WOTCRPG. Wizards started as an RPG company. When they first started getting flush with Magicash, they expanded into more RPGs because that's what Adkison was into. They bought Ars Magica and Talislanta (and maybe some others), and published Everway on their own. But they realized pretty quickly that resources spent on RPGs were pretty much wasted in comparison to resources spent on Magic, so they sold them off again and got out of RPGs – until they got the chance to buy the biggest RPG on the block.</p><p></p><p>And without 3e, there is no Paizo or Pathfinder. Paizo started because Wizards wanted to outsource making the Dragon and Dungeon magazines, so Lisa Stevens and Vic Wertz took some of the money they got from Wizards selling out to Hasbro and started a publishing company with it. They got known for raising the standard of the magazines, and particularly for their adventure paths in Dungeon. When they lost the license to the magazines because Wizards wanted to move them in house again, they switched focus to making magazine-like adventure paths, and mainly created Pathfinder because they didn't want to make 4e adventures (partially because they didn't like the rules, and partially because they couldn't abide the GSL) and it made little long-term sense to make adventures for a system that was no longer being published.</p><p></p><p>Pre-3e, the biggest competitors to D&D were White Wolf (who were about to blow themselves up and sell to an Icelandic video game studio), Palladium, and FASA. West End Games would have been one too if their parent company hadn't gone bankrupt in 1998 which made them lose the Star Wars license (just before the release of the Phantom Menace, too).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 9225127, member: 907"] If TSR remains, there is no 3e-style WOTCRPG. Wizards started as an RPG company. When they first started getting flush with Magicash, they expanded into more RPGs because that's what Adkison was into. They bought Ars Magica and Talislanta (and maybe some others), and published Everway on their own. But they realized pretty quickly that resources spent on RPGs were pretty much wasted in comparison to resources spent on Magic, so they sold them off again and got out of RPGs – until they got the chance to buy the biggest RPG on the block. And without 3e, there is no Paizo or Pathfinder. Paizo started because Wizards wanted to outsource making the Dragon and Dungeon magazines, so Lisa Stevens and Vic Wertz took some of the money they got from Wizards selling out to Hasbro and started a publishing company with it. They got known for raising the standard of the magazines, and particularly for their adventure paths in Dungeon. When they lost the license to the magazines because Wizards wanted to move them in house again, they switched focus to making magazine-like adventure paths, and mainly created Pathfinder because they didn't want to make 4e adventures (partially because they didn't like the rules, and partially because they couldn't abide the GSL) and it made little long-term sense to make adventures for a system that was no longer being published. Pre-3e, the biggest competitors to D&D were White Wolf (who were about to blow themselves up and sell to an Icelandic video game studio), Palladium, and FASA. West End Games would have been one too if their parent company hadn't gone bankrupt in 1998 which made them lose the Star Wars license (just before the release of the Phantom Menace, too). [/QUOTE]
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