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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9226838" data-attributes="member: 7635">For me, 2nd edition is a refinement of AD&amp;D. It smooths out and standardizes a lot of things (like making initiative a d10 in all instances), changes some things (like the bard and ranger), added good ideas from the 1e era (spheres of magic, nonweapon profs) and removed some bad ideas (hello 1e bard). Yet most of 1e's stuff remains useable with a little work, enough so that you can blend those rules together even though a character built using the 2e PHB looks different than a character built using the 1e PHB. 3e made it so that was no longer possible. My AD&amp;D books were built with wildly different assumptions on combat, skills, ability checks, even magic. You cannot take anything from AD&amp;D and make it run in 3e without basically rebuilding it in 3e's rules. But potentially, there might have been a 3e that took a lot of the best ideas of 2e and built a compatible version of 3e that worked with your 2e material (and by extension, your 1e, though probably you'd need to do a lot more work to make that happen). Lather-rinse-repeat. Maybe we don't get 3e all at once, but I'm sure eventually we excise level limits, buff up weaker classes, clean up saves and skills, etc. etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 9226838, member: 7635"] For me, 2nd edition is a refinement of AD&D. It smooths out and standardizes a lot of things (like making initiative a d10 in all instances), changes some things (like the bard and ranger), added good ideas from the 1e era (spheres of magic, nonweapon profs) and removed some bad ideas (hello 1e bard). Yet most of 1e's stuff remains useable with a little work, enough so that you can blend those rules together even though a character built using the 2e PHB looks different than a character built using the 1e PHB. 3e made it so that was no longer possible. My AD&D books were built with wildly different assumptions on combat, skills, ability checks, even magic. You cannot take anything from AD&D and make it run in 3e without basically rebuilding it in 3e's rules. But potentially, there might have been a 3e that took a lot of the best ideas of 2e and built a compatible version of 3e that worked with your 2e material (and by extension, your 1e, though probably you'd need to do a lot more work to make that happen). Lather-rinse-repeat. Maybe we don't get 3e all at once, but I'm sure eventually we excise level limits, buff up weaker classes, clean up saves and skills, etc. etc. [/QUOTE]

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