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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9227118" data-attributes="member: 6790260">And yet in most ways it's also precisely the same.The vast majority of spells are identical to what they were day 1. The classes have gained more options, but by and large are essentially the same--even in 5.5e, with a couple noteworthy exceptions. New monsters are designed, or presented, in somewhat different ways, but they use identical rules.And it is very telling, for example, that in a decade run, 5e never got more classes beyond Artificer despite IIRC 3-4 attempts at psionic rules. It never got Dark Sun, or a host of other similar things. Rules for playing something like dragons (Council of Wyrms) never appeared. Etc.For all the talk that iterative change makes a big difference, in many ways, it really hasn't with 5e.Custom Lineage and selectable starting stats? Nothing new or interesting on either front.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9227118, member: 6790260"] And yet in most ways it's also precisely the same. The vast majority of spells are identical to what they were day 1. The classes have gained more [I]options[/I], but by and large are essentially the same--even in 5.5e, with a couple noteworthy exceptions. New monsters are designed, or presented, in somewhat different ways, but they use identical rules. And it is very telling, for example, that in a decade run, 5e never got more classes beyond Artificer despite IIRC 3-4 attempts at psionic rules. It never got Dark Sun, or a host of other similar things. Rules for playing something like dragons (Council of Wyrms) never appeared. Etc. For all the talk that iterative change makes a big difference, in many ways, it really [I]hasn't[/I] with 5e. Custom Lineage and selectable starting stats? Nothing new or interesting on either front. [/QUOTE]

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