Does LARP freak anyone else out?

You know, I have been a RPGer for 22 years now but have never tried LARPing.

One of my good friends and his wife are really big into NERO and play DnD with us every other week. They are trying to convince my wife and I to start LARPing with them.

My wife is all for it, big time.

However, for some reason I haven't quite fathomed I just can't convince myself to try it. I almost think my psyche is saying "if you cross that line you will truly be an ubergeek", so I'm not crossing.

I can't put my finger on it, other than it feels just wrong.
 

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mmu1 said:
Freaked out? No, but every description of it I've heard from friends who LARPed sounded so inferior to good ol' table-top gaming I never saw the point...

The point is that a well-run Vampire LARP, held at a nightclub or house party type venue is an awesome place to get drunk and meet women.

Normal table-top D&D is..well..not.
 

Re: Bothered about LARPs

mistergone said:
...the whole event seemed more an organized attempt to score with goth chicks than to play out a game. And you know, every story about a WoD LARP I have ever heard and every one I have been in has turned out to be, however convoluted and contrived, and organized attempt to score with chicks...

It's a laudable goal :)
 

As someone who loves both acting and RPGing, I've always wondered why LARPing didn't hold more interest for me. This has been a very thought-provoking thread.

I've never participated myself, but I've seen LARPs at cons, and a member of my mid-90's AD&D group I DM'd tried to get me into his NERO group - but as a rather emotionally unstable fellow, I really didn't want to spend much time with him away from the gaming table. Harsh, but true. On the other hand, two very good friends of mine are in SCA, and are great guys to spend time with; never joined their group, though. On the third (!) hand, another very good friend is a fantastic actor and fight choreographer, but won't go near the SCA with a ten-foot pole, mainly because "they really try to take your head off with their sword." Which brings me to the point I can add on the subject.

When you're doing a play, the most important thing for an actor to do - regardless of any "talent" level - is to fully commit to the play, and to be fully engaged with your fellow actors. You can't commit to the characters and plot half-way, and expect the audience to enjoy the show; they'll see it's fake, and won't be able to suspend disbelief. This is one of the functions of the rehearsal process - you create, as a group, a space where everyone feels safe and so they can fully commit without fearing that your fellows will let you down. You're there for them, they're there for you, and there is trust built up over time and practice.

At the cons I've seen, I've felt bad for them because most seem to self-conscious. This comes from not being able to commit fully to thier role as a mage or vampire - there isn't a trust level, because you are on you own, as it were; and even if you had a theatre-style rehearsal period to get into character, and you could fully trust everyone you're LARPing with, there would still be the outsiders - other attendees of the con - that aren't in on it. You have to be on your guard to not hurt or freak out someone, so you can't fully immerse yourself. The last thing an actor can be, and be good, is be self-consious on stage - and that's exactly what LARPers need to do, in order to stay in character, it seems to me. On stage, you're not worried that your fellow fighter will *really* take your head off with the sword (trust again) - but in LARPing, you have to have a wall up, because you're really fighting, and reallt have to guard yourself.

On the other hand, from the posts I've read here, there are people who have no problem fully committing to their character, civilians be damned - and that brings up a whole 'nother raft of issues that mistergone talked about.

Once again, these are all an outsider's impressions, but I hope my dual insight is of some use to someone.
 


DDK said:

In fact, I don't even think it's freaky-harmless freaky, I think it's freaky-scary freaky. It's one thing to roleplay online or around a table but to do it like in a LARP is just... freaky.


you're my brother! Should you ever come to Germany I guarantee you a place at my table and free beer!
 

I just though of a parallel: a few weeks ago someone psoted a thread: "the more detailed a miniature, the more it detracts from a game". I think that is true, since you'll stop bothering to imagine something when it is already very close to what it represents.

So the guy in the Blue tracksuit throwing beanbags at you yelling lightningbolt, doesn't make you think of a guy in blue robes, casting lightning bolts at you. You'll see him as the guy in the Blue tracksuit.

Now, when it would be acting, costumes would be there, you have rehearsals, exercises to get into character and everything.

When it's roleplaying, you see the d6 on the battlemat (your character) opposed to a d4 (an ogre)but when the DM says: "The ogre wildly swings his greatclub at you and strikes the barren ground in front of you as you step back." You can picture it. I think that is why larping doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't seem to fulfill either side particularly well.

Rav
 

Ravellion said:
When it's roleplaying, you see the d6 on the battlemat (your character) opposed to a d4 (an ogre)but when the DM says: "The ogre wildly swings his greatclub at you and strikes the barren ground in front of you as you step back." You can picture it. I think that is why larping doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't seem to fulfill either side particularly well.

Which is a valid complaint, and I've heard it before. Just don't assume that this:

So the guy in the Blue tracksuit throwing beanbags at you yelling lightningbolt, doesn't make you think of a guy in blue robes, casting lightning bolts at you. You'll see him as the guy in the Blue tracksuit.

Is true for everyone.
 

Re: Bothered about LARPs

mistergone said:
My experience with "boffer" LARPing was not as bad, but didn't make me want to put much time into that either. It was through IFGS, which has been mentioned in this thread, and admittedly, I think, it was a splinter group of IFGS or maybe a small faction trying to get started in this area. I went to a couple of the meetings where they explained the rules and combat systems. Right off I thought it would be difficult to execute but it sounded fun. I noticed a lot of the other players were males younger than me, but there were a few females in the group too. The first game was a big combat scenario. It was ridiculous. Basically, it involved a lot of guys in their late teens and early 20's trying to protect and impress a couple young girls while at the same time beat on each other with foam swords. All the while shouting out numbers. Now, I'm a big guy, and I guess I can strike an imposing figure, but I don't really know.. for whatever reason, a lot of these guys sought me out to try and pummel me with their foam swords, but when I whack one of them back, he freaks out about me hitting too hard. There was a fight there about anotehr guy bending someone's foam sword. It was a mess, in the end, and despite the guy in charge being a pretty well-meaning guy, I didn't go back. I figure if I wanted to impress underage girls by demonstrating my mock prowess, I could find another venue.

North cali provisional hugh? Sounds like a badly run weapons practice. (and an attempt to score with chicks) From what I can see they have been in the provisional staus since 1997. As for hitting you and shouting numbers, there is a thing they called "machine gun" in dallas. It was when dome one hit you five times fast and said "55555" Such attacks were delared not to count as no sword would do anything to anyone if weilded that way. They reequired good solid swings and not flicks of the wrist. From your description, you never got to experience the RP element. But like you, I agree that if it is not desturbing it is sort of silly. I have changed a lot since then and I probably would not go back. I'm into D&D for the stories. If I want to swordfight I will take up fencing and Kendo. I think I would get more out of it. I have a life to live and I dont need to live another.

The group I was with (Dallas) was a group of mostly older (late 20's and 30's) people that had moved down from Colorado when some software co. moved to dallas. LARPing seemed different then. It was before the WoD larping took off and I think that really spoiled it. Then again I was like 14 or somthing so it seemed like somthing fun to do.

This group was not based around a college populaion so it was pretty stable. The groups I am familiar with and would recommend are any IFGS non-provisional chapter.

Especially:

Norman OK.
Denver CO.
Dallas TX.

Some of the provisional chapters are ok. My suggestin is to check people out. Dont go for the fighting right away. Just hang out and talk.

This is all based on info gathered on or about 1993. So things could be different now. But I see a lot of the same names on the webpages so I think they might still be good.

Well so much for this thread.

Aaron.
 

I've LARPed a couple of times, once with some friends, once after Dragonmeet in London.

The first was a boffing game with foam swords and stuff, pretty enjoyable but spoiled by some kids that just ran off and tried to hit everything and everybody with their swords more or less at random. Bleh. Helping out a DM by playing a monster was more fun, but I still had very little understanding of what was going on.

And yes, one of the girls I went with I had a crush on at the time. :D

The post-Con LARP was also fun, it was a Vampire game. I just enjoyed talking and playing a somewhat confused vampire who didn't know what was going on but was intent on confusing some other people. it took place in a pub, so I had a few beers too. No real desire to go back to it.

In both cases, I met some nice people, but also in both cases I met some people who were waaaay too into it...that didn't seem to be treating it as a game, more as an excuse to try and freak other people out.

So, I've tried it, I've nothing against it, but it's not for me.
 

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