Does LARP freak anyone else out?

I used to play in a large LARP that was run over the weekends in an empty dorm. I also helped run a LARP that involved no less than 5 locations, (the sponsoring game store and 4 private residences.) I don’t LARP any more.

While I didn’t see any more “freaky” people than usual (all the LARPers I knew also did table top, so it would have been the pot calling the kettle black.) But the biggest turn off was “gamer politics.” On this forum, we get a “I got kicked out/How do I deal with a problem player” thread once a week as people talk about the egos and in-game solutions to the politics of those at the table. Now multiply that by 10 times and you have the potential for a real headache.

Both set ups I mentioned were popular and went of for a couple of years, but both ended the same way. A group of new gamers came in who had the idea that they would “take over” the scene, even if it meant arguing with the refs and ruining the game for everyone else. Now here is where I will get flamed. :)

It seems that LARPS, Medieval Age recreation groups and fandom organizations have one thing in common, the members of these highly social cultures like to play politics each other, who can be the “coolest” fan with the most fellow subfans adoring them. I don’t see the point.

Perhaps this part of that “wrongness” some sense, they don’t see the point in joining a group where the rules are unspoken and taken up a notch in passion, oddly enough there is an SF book that hits on this. http://www.scifi.com/sfw/current/books.html

The other reasons I quit are that most of the LARPS (boffer/social) have pretty much the same structure. Boffers is the “run from combat to combat” and Social is the “GM is the ‘prince/king’ and his best friends all play the movers, shakers and minions of the king (so then you usually a “us vs. them” thing going.)

The only other thing, which was highly personal, was the suspension of disbelief. For me if I am sitting at the table, I have to imagine the whole scene, which I can do quite well. For LARPing, you can dress up to be “in character” and maintain the acting, but then you have to suddenly gear up and imagine someone’ bathroom is the dungeon or the sewer. The constant switching to accepting what I see and then using my imagination again sort of jars me. There was one game, Changeling, where the characters lived in the real world as well as a magical one. That game might something I might enjoy.

So between politics and predictability, I burned out on LARPing in a few years. Then again, the same thing almost made me burn out on tabletop gaming a couple of years ago WotC may never know how 3e really put a kick back into rpging.
 

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Glaurung said:


Are you near DC? Which gaming store? I've been looking for a local area LARP to join. I think I may have found one that plays near Dupont, but its good to have more options.
I live in Northern Stafford, near the Quantico Marine Base and work at Game World in Aquia. The LARPs run every other Sunday (Conveniently on wrestling pay-per-view days.). They're always looking for more people to join. It's only like 25 people thoug, so it's a small one.
 

I've never played a LARP before but I was interested in playing a Vampire one.

However one thing about it that I don't like is this...if anyone tried to touch me during it even in a non-sexual way I would forget that I'm playing a game and probably do something violent.

I don't know, it would freak me out being touched especially in charged environment like that. What are the rules about this in games like that?
 

Being a former security guard at a Hotel where many a game convention has happened, I soon learned that LARPers can be some real destructive and rude people.

I'm glad some of them keep it in the woods.

Yes, it is weird.
 

KitanaVorr said:
I've never played a LARP before but I was interested in playing a Vampire one.

However one thing about it that I don't like is this...if anyone tried to touch me during it even in a non-sexual way I would forget that I'm playing a game and probably do something violent.

I don't know, it would freak me out being touched especially in charged environment like that. What are the rules about this in games like that?

First rule in the book is always no touching. The only exception I could see is something like shaking hands, maybe a tap on the shoulder. Obviously no grabbing people or unwanted contact.

If you know the person you're interacting with, it's usually a little more lax. Maybe a kiss on the hand or leading by the arm if you like, but the bottom line is comfort level. If you don't make it very explicit that you agree to any specific contact, then it isn't allowed. Any kind of rough or violent contact is never permitted.
 

Umbran said:


You're talking about a group ("larpers") that is both ill defined and large - quite probably in the tens of thousands. Are you really so confident in your sampling that you are willing to label thousands of people you've never met as "socially inept freaks"?


Yes, I am that confident in my sampling. I'm pretty much done with this thread, as I feel I've made my point. Several times.
 
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Originally posted by mistergone What I'm saying, is MOST LARPers seem to me to be really weird people with oddly developed ideas of social interaction, or, "freaks" as it were. And I haven't pulled this opionion out of my ass, it comes from years and observation, participation, and first hand experience. Sure, I'm a freak too. >shrugs< But I'll still say that LARPing is freaky and wrong. It won't stop anyone from doing it, eh? I don't have that kind of power. I'm just some jerk on a message board.

Hummm.

Perhaps you shoudl qualify your statement.

Most of the LARPers you've encountered are weirdoes. That's fine.

Other people have very different experiences. I'm in the Camarilla, the big White-Wolf LARP-based organization. Most of the players are college students or professionals with lives and social graces.

Most SCA members I know (I still consider it a kind of full-contact LARP) are very well balanced (I won't say normal - hitting your friends with swords is not normal, but it is fun) people. They own houses, have jobs and children, and are doctors, lawyers, IT professionals, US Marshals, and distinctly "non-freaky."

It all depends on the demographics of where you live.
 

Originally posted by KitanaVorr I've never played a LARP before but I was interested in playing a Vampire one. However one thing about it that I don't like is this...if anyone tried to touch me during it even in a non-sexual way I would forget that I'm playing a game and probably do something violent. I don't know, it would freak me out being touched especially in charged environment like that. What are the rules about this in games like that?

Depends on the game.

SCA members wear armor and bash each other with sticks. Paintball players shoot each other with exploding dye pellets. Boffer LARPers whack each other with foam-covered PVC. White Wolf LARPs enforce a strict "no touching" baseline policy with the only exceptions being consent of the player about to be touched.
 

Regarding boundaries/ touch in boffer LARPS

From what I've seen, many boffer LARPS allow "non-combatant" PCs, as well, for people who are either uncomfortable with the idea of getting hit, or unable to do so for health reasons.

In fact, in my old LARP all "Healers" were non-combatant unless the specifically requested otherwise. You could not attack them, period.

There are also plenty of safety precautions, such as not hit to the head, groin, and in our case, hands.

Searching enemies is often done by saying something like "I search your left pocket" unless permission is granted to do otherwise.

Most people who run LARPs are aware that people have different comfort levels with strangers.
 

re: Politics

Yes, that's absoutely true. LARPs tend to attract people who want to impress everyone else. And this can lead to bad, bad politics within the game. Especially when people bring their RL problems into the LARP. While also true in P&P games, it gets worse when you have upwards of 50 people involved.

re: Touching

With White Wolf's LARPS, the rules are:

  1. No touching - You can run, jump, duck, whatever. But you do not reach out and smack someone, or even touch them in a combat situation. This doesn't rule out casual contact (handshakes, hugs, etc.), but rather dangerous contact (pushing, striking, etc.)
  2. No weapons - Never bring something to the game that could be misconstrued as a live weapon. No toy guns, toy swords, etc. unless they're obviously fake (ie. Star Wars lightsabers, etc.). And, of course, never use the props in combat (see 'No touching').
  3. Don't Freak the Mundanes - Like I said before, don't RP in front of non-players. You don't want a patrolling cop wondering why you're telling this guy he's going to be strung up on a pole in time for the sunrise tomorrow...
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    Of course, in a boffer LARP, part of the point is to whack each other with foam weapons, so that's moot. :)
 

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