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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 6189147" data-attributes="member: 40398">I feel like I'm about to tell a kid there's no Santa, but...have you heard the term 'edition warrior'?We all tend to rationalize and work around the gamey parts of our favorite games -- even patently absurd things like hit points and damage. For example I can easily explain anything you find gamey about 4e. But some gamers don't realize all the justifying and bending-over-backwards, as you say, they do to make it work. So they mistakenly see other editions as more gamey than their favorite one.And when an edition changeover is happening and 3rd party publishers are taking up the torch of a previous edition, as was the case the last time you posted, tensions get high. Some of us get on our high horse and try to convince others that their favorite edition is more gamey, or less fun or whatever. And that's how we get PF edition warriors telling you that their game is less gamey than 4e.So don't feel bad. We've all had the wool pulled over our eyes at one time or another. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 6189147, member: 40398"] I feel like I'm about to tell a kid there's no Santa, but...have you heard the term 'edition warrior'? We all tend to rationalize and work around the gamey parts of our favorite games -- even patently absurd things like hit points and damage. For example I can easily explain anything you find gamey about 4e. But some gamers don't realize all the justifying and bending-over-backwards, as you say, they do to make it work. So they mistakenly see other editions as more gamey than their favorite one. And when an edition changeover is happening and 3rd party publishers are taking up the torch of a previous edition, as was the case the last time you posted, tensions get high. Some of us get on our high horse and try to convince others that their favorite edition is more gamey, or less fun or whatever. And that's how we get PF edition warriors telling you that their game is less gamey than 4e. So don't feel bad. We've all had the wool pulled over our eyes at one time or another. :) [/QUOTE]

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