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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 6189873" data-attributes="member: 40398"><p>That's because you don't see a problem with your favorite edition.</p><p></p><p>I've had a paizo forum account for years, and I still post there. If what you're insinuating were true -- that 3.x's issues aren't such a big deal to most D&Ders -- I'd expect the paizo forums to be free of all the debates we saw during the 2000 - 2008 era. (Is LFQW a problem? Should paladins only be LG? How do I deal with alignment? Player entitlement vs. DM god-complex, the list goes on and on.) After all, those who think these issues are problems should have converted to 4e right? Not so! All of these issues are still debated on Paizo, on ENworld, and on every forum where 3.x is discussed -- <em>and just as hotly as ever.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Clearly, 4e isn't the solution everyone is looking for. It isn't even the solution for everyone who sees problems with 3.x. But it created solutions to problems that are very much present for many D&Ders, regardless of whether you recognize those problems or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Leading questions aren't so cool from the answering end, are they? I suggest considering your wording more carefully the next time you pose one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>1. I assume you mean 'So will paizo go out of business.' While I don't think that's likely to happen anytime soon, PF 2e is most certainly on its way.</p><p></p><p>2. Ah, what it must be like to be that optimistic...</p><p></p><p>3. When you've seen as many editions as I have, you start noticing patterns. So as fundamentally disinterested in 5e as I am, I know it's not fundamentally flawed. (At least not in a way that several other editions aren't.) People will buy it for whatever reasons, even if only "Because it's the current edition of D&D," and many will even find themselves loving it. And then its profits will become a diminishing return for WotC, and all of a sudden 6e will be here!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 6189873, member: 40398"] That's because you don't see a problem with your favorite edition. I've had a paizo forum account for years, and I still post there. If what you're insinuating were true -- that 3.x's issues aren't such a big deal to most D&Ders -- I'd expect the paizo forums to be free of all the debates we saw during the 2000 - 2008 era. (Is LFQW a problem? Should paladins only be LG? How do I deal with alignment? Player entitlement vs. DM god-complex, the list goes on and on.) After all, those who think these issues are problems should have converted to 4e right? Not so! All of these issues are still debated on Paizo, on ENworld, and on every forum where 3.x is discussed -- [I]and just as hotly as ever. [/I] Clearly, 4e isn't the solution everyone is looking for. It isn't even the solution for everyone who sees problems with 3.x. But it created solutions to problems that are very much present for many D&Ders, regardless of whether you recognize those problems or not. Leading questions aren't so cool from the answering end, are they? I suggest considering your wording more carefully the next time you pose one. 1. I assume you mean 'So will paizo go out of business.' While I don't think that's likely to happen anytime soon, PF 2e is most certainly on its way. 2. Ah, what it must be like to be that optimistic... 3. When you've seen as many editions as I have, you start noticing patterns. So as fundamentally disinterested in 5e as I am, I know it's not fundamentally flawed. (At least not in a way that several other editions aren't.) People will buy it for whatever reasons, even if only "Because it's the current edition of D&D," and many will even find themselves loving it. And then its profits will become a diminishing return for WotC, and all of a sudden 6e will be here! [/QUOTE]
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