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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6191001" data-attributes="member: 6681948">Where I consider this a feature in that it focuses Rogues away from high base damage and allows them to focus their choices on something other than being a second class Fighter.&nbsp; Obviously, opinions and preferences vary.&nbsp; The wizard is a great example of the tradeoff between &quot;cool stuff&quot; and &quot;tracking abilities&quot;.After choosing whether use of Rage is worthwhile at the outset.&nbsp; I certainly agree there are more choices to be made.Yet any given spell is usable only once a day, and spells are generally considered valuable.&nbsp; Of course, you can prepare the same spell more than once.&nbsp; But would making those Barbarian abilities &quot;X per day&quot; rather than &quot;Once per rage&quot; be superior?The Fighter needed more than the Barbarian, I think, and had less to tie his new abilities to.&nbsp; While he gets mechanical abilities usable every round of combat, he's not, as you note, viewed as getting &quot;cool stuff&quot;.&nbsp; After all, no one points to the Fighter's BAB as a cool thing when compared to a Cleric or Wizard.&nbsp; The Fighter is also less customizable in respect of his abilities, other than choosing specific weapons (but he already had bonus feats to provide a lot of customizing options, where the Barbarian did not).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6191001, member: 6681948"] Where I consider this a feature in that it focuses Rogues away from high base damage and allows them to focus their choices on something other than being a second class Fighter. Obviously, opinions and preferences vary. The wizard is a great example of the tradeoff between "cool stuff" and "tracking abilities". After choosing whether use of Rage is worthwhile at the outset. I certainly agree there are more choices to be made. Yet any given spell is usable only once a day, and spells are generally considered valuable. Of course, you can prepare the same spell more than once. But would making those Barbarian abilities "X per day" rather than "Once per rage" be superior? The Fighter needed more than the Barbarian, I think, and had less to tie his new abilities to. While he gets mechanical abilities usable every round of combat, he's not, as you note, viewed as getting "cool stuff". After all, no one points to the Fighter's BAB as a cool thing when compared to a Cleric or Wizard. The Fighter is also less customizable in respect of his abilities, other than choosing specific weapons (but he already had bonus feats to provide a lot of customizing options, where the Barbarian did not). [/QUOTE]

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