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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 6193258" data-attributes="member: 50895">You still miss the point, none of the classes in the Bo9S are fighters, so this doesn't make fighters cool, as none are actually fighters - they're something else, martial perhaps, but no other relationship to fighters. If anything the classes in Bo9S, are actually tweaked versions of cleric or paladin, rogue and monk, not one of the martial adepts look anything like fighters. So you need to stop suggesting it makes fighters cool, because fighters haven't changed at all with the existence of this broken book.Our gaming group consists of 6 people, 3 of them are GMs that rotate that job. Not a single person in our group wants to play martial adepts. None think they're balanced. None will allow them in play. This is not some personal prejudice against martial classes, as I only play martial classes - I've never played a full caster in 35 years of D&amp;D, yet I find no attraction to including martial adepts in my game. And as a developer, I will never make PF versions of martial adepts nor allow their use in game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 6193258, member: 50895"] You still miss the point, none of the classes in the Bo9S are fighters, so this doesn't make fighters cool, as none are actually fighters - they're something else, martial perhaps, but no other relationship to fighters. If anything the classes in Bo9S, are actually tweaked versions of cleric or paladin, rogue and monk, not one of the martial adepts look anything like fighters. So you need to stop suggesting it makes fighters cool, because fighters haven't changed at all with the existence of this broken book. Our gaming group consists of 6 people, 3 of them are GMs that rotate that job. Not a single person in our group wants to play martial adepts. None think they're balanced. None will allow them in play. This is not some personal prejudice against martial classes, as I only play martial classes - I've never played a full caster in 35 years of D&D, yet I find no attraction to including martial adepts in my game. And as a developer, I will never make PF versions of martial adepts nor allow their use in game. [/QUOTE]

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