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<blockquote data-quote="HardcoreDandDGirl" data-source="post: 6193500" data-attributes="member: 82746"><p>I will still argue it isn't the same. I have played in games like that, and the NPCs are getting a hell of a free ride. (infact there is a OotS comic making fun of it) PCs and NPCs are different (FULL STOP). You do make NPCs that level, it still only is part of a story that the PCs have a MUCH bigger part of, and when they level up there ONE CHARACTER you get to level up the whole world. it is different, the fact that you have never tried it means you can not argue if it is the same or not... you never tried it as a PC.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> so tell me about your playtest of everything you hate... lets start with Knights and Warblades... just 2 concepts, what did they do in play that made you so dislike them?</p><p> BS I never stoped anyone from playing anything they wanted... infact in my very limited DMing experience my rule was "IF I have the book it's fine, if I don't you just need to bring the book to the game..."</p><p></p><p> - it is only a broken book if it is not functioning as intended... if you do not like the intention it is a disliked book not a broken one...</p><p></p><p> ok well now you have experience that that opionon is in no way universal, and there are people who love the book... how does that effect your thoughts?</p><p> what made you hate it?</p><p> just as how I don't care what you say about my books, or religion, or job in your house... I do care when you say them in public... This isn't me comeing into your house and saying "Hey you have to use this book" this is me in the public form telling you "Stop bad mouthing something I like."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HardcoreDandDGirl, post: 6193500, member: 82746"] I will still argue it isn't the same. I have played in games like that, and the NPCs are getting a hell of a free ride. (infact there is a OotS comic making fun of it) PCs and NPCs are different (FULL STOP). You do make NPCs that level, it still only is part of a story that the PCs have a MUCH bigger part of, and when they level up there ONE CHARACTER you get to level up the whole world. it is different, the fact that you have never tried it means you can not argue if it is the same or not... you never tried it as a PC. so tell me about your playtest of everything you hate... lets start with Knights and Warblades... just 2 concepts, what did they do in play that made you so dislike them? BS I never stoped anyone from playing anything they wanted... infact in my very limited DMing experience my rule was "IF I have the book it's fine, if I don't you just need to bring the book to the game..." - it is only a broken book if it is not functioning as intended... if you do not like the intention it is a disliked book not a broken one... ok well now you have experience that that opionon is in no way universal, and there are people who love the book... how does that effect your thoughts? what made you hate it? just as how I don't care what you say about my books, or religion, or job in your house... I do care when you say them in public... This isn't me comeing into your house and saying "Hey you have to use this book" this is me in the public form telling you "Stop bad mouthing something I like." [/QUOTE]
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