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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 6193524" data-attributes="member: 50895">Sorry, Oots is a cartoon, not any kind of an expert at anything, so what they make fun of is profoundly meaningless to me.Yes, every class: warblade, war mage, every psionicist class, (I don't know what a knight class is as I don't have the book that comes from), every martial adept class, even the Bo9S prestige classes were all play-tested at our table. When something doesn't work for everyone at our table we ban it. How can we judge the value of any class unless it's actually play-tested first? What might work or not work on paper, might have a completely different experience in play. We play-test it all, or at least from all the resources we possess, then make our group decisions after that.PCs and NPCs in our table are pretty much identical in play and build, there is no difference. (Maybe there's a difference at your table, but not mine.) Also, we often run modules of the players playing the NPCs that will be the normal parties opponents. I've even published a one-shot adventure that does exactly this - the players get the chance to run NPCs (for an entire module) that will be hunting their PCs in the next adventure.Let me be clear in stating, that I've played most every class at least once. When I say, I've only run martial classes, that is for an entire campaign (or more than 10 levels). I've played all other classes for one-shots and play-tests, if nothing else. Only martials and half-casters have I ever run over the long haul, as those are the only ones that interest me. I didn't mean to suggest that I've never played those other classes at any time. However, mostly I run them as NPCs, as I am a player about 5% of the time.Regarding banned material, such material was NOT banned because we "hated" it. Actually we have no emotional attachment at all. The question is only if it functions in our game, and meets our overall expectations of fun. When it doesn't we ban it. There's no love nor hate involved, simply function or dysfunction.A book is broken if it breaks the game with it's rules changes for a given table. I cannot tell you if a given book is broken for all tables, I only play at one table. If it's broken for our table it's broken. I don't need to worry about the rest the gaming world, nor will I judge what's best for them. I didn't say Bo9S is broken for everyone.Regarding other people's opinions about anything - we all have different opinions (and are entitled to them). What works for one group may not work for any other - I do not judge other people's opinions about anything. I will never state what others might beliefs are and how they apply to their versions of fun - I just don't know. I only what it is true and not true for me, and any post I make in any forum is only based on my point of view. It's never everyone's opinion. So if you or anybody loves the Book of Nine Swords, then good on you, have fun with it. But since your opinion and the books you love have no application to me - why should I even care? It doesn't counter to what I know is true regarding my gaming table - and that is all that really matters.I at no time stated that my beliefs are everyone elses, nor that they should be (I'll clarify by saying they actually shouldn't be the same.)And in noticing your post with Ahnehnois, I don't feel fighter is the weakest core class - that belongs to monk, and it was true in 3x as well.</blockquote>

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