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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 6193657" data-attributes="member: 40398"><p>This thread has been such a bizarre reading experience. Not to pick on Starfox, but I can't resist commenting:</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is practically nothing in this post that fits my experience, or that I relate to. I respect your opinion, but it's just driven home to me how fundamentally different I am from some of my fellow gamers.</p><p></p><p>"3.5 is about grittiness, and things that aren't explicitly labeled as spells are mundane. Except for monks, but they suck, so they don't really count. So Bo9S magic doesn't fit." (Okay, I totally agree that 3.5 is gritty particularly at very low and very high levels. Though even if I cared what 3.5 is 'about' according to...well, whoever, I don't think Bo9S makes 3.5 less gritty. Also, there are quite a few non-mundane powers available to non-casters even in core, but whatever.)</p><p></p><p>"But oh, I'm totally a fan of wuxia and anime. I just don't think 3.5 is about that." (To my way of thinking, what does it matter what 3.5 is 'about'? It's a game -- it's <em>about</em> having fun! So if mundane magic is fun, throw it in there!)</p><p></p><p>"Now there's PF, but the Magus, Alchemist, and Summer really blur the line between mundane and magic. So maybe Bo9S would fit PF better." (I don't object to blurring the line between the mundane/magic false dichotomy, but I find it odd that you choose those three classes as your examples. To my understanding, all three are explicitly magical; the magus and the summer even have spells. Maybe the alchemist is more steampunk-y though? Also, I scratch my head every time someone mentions PF as if its fundamentally different from 3.5, but I guess some people see it that way.)</p><p></p><p>"1e and 2e were more gonzo because everyone MCed, but 3.x is less flashy because gishing generally sucks." (I just got a good chuckle out of this, because I'm sure that the folks on dragonsfoot would argue with you till everyone's blue in the face over this.)</p><p></p><p>I'm paraphrasing you in a very flippant manner, and I hope it comes off tongue-in-cheek rather than argumentative. Because again, you're welcome to your opinion and I'm not here to tell you you're wrong.</p><p></p><p>One of the benefits of being primarily a 4e gamer is that I don't get so heated up over these 3isms anymore. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 6193657, member: 40398"] This thread has been such a bizarre reading experience. Not to pick on Starfox, but I can't resist commenting: There is practically nothing in this post that fits my experience, or that I relate to. I respect your opinion, but it's just driven home to me how fundamentally different I am from some of my fellow gamers. "3.5 is about grittiness, and things that aren't explicitly labeled as spells are mundane. Except for monks, but they suck, so they don't really count. So Bo9S magic doesn't fit." (Okay, I totally agree that 3.5 is gritty particularly at very low and very high levels. Though even if I cared what 3.5 is 'about' according to...well, whoever, I don't think Bo9S makes 3.5 less gritty. Also, there are quite a few non-mundane powers available to non-casters even in core, but whatever.) "But oh, I'm totally a fan of wuxia and anime. I just don't think 3.5 is about that." (To my way of thinking, what does it matter what 3.5 is 'about'? It's a game -- it's [I]about[/I] having fun! So if mundane magic is fun, throw it in there!) "Now there's PF, but the Magus, Alchemist, and Summer really blur the line between mundane and magic. So maybe Bo9S would fit PF better." (I don't object to blurring the line between the mundane/magic false dichotomy, but I find it odd that you choose those three classes as your examples. To my understanding, all three are explicitly magical; the magus and the summer even have spells. Maybe the alchemist is more steampunk-y though? Also, I scratch my head every time someone mentions PF as if its fundamentally different from 3.5, but I guess some people see it that way.) "1e and 2e were more gonzo because everyone MCed, but 3.x is less flashy because gishing generally sucks." (I just got a good chuckle out of this, because I'm sure that the folks on dragonsfoot would argue with you till everyone's blue in the face over this.) I'm paraphrasing you in a very flippant manner, and I hope it comes off tongue-in-cheek rather than argumentative. Because again, you're welcome to your opinion and I'm not here to tell you you're wrong. One of the benefits of being primarily a 4e gamer is that I don't get so heated up over these 3isms anymore. ;) [/QUOTE]
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