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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 6193727" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>Multiple attacks. Whirlwind attack. Cleave/great cleave. It doesn't have to be an area of effect at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Do we really see or read about single archers doing this? Usually I see it as multiple archers...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is there anything a bonafide god can't do? Because Heracles can do the things he does because that's what he is, not because he's a fighter. If he were a rogue or even an enchanter like Circe, you can bet he'd probably be doing the same things.</p><p>And I don't think I'd use Achilles fighting Scamander as a positive example here. My copy of the Iliad has him running from the river like a little school girl crying out for the gods to save his misbegotten hiney. And it appears to be only their intervention that saves him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't really think I'm missing anything from most of the current discussion. HardcoreDandDGirl seems to want a character who encroaches on the wizard mojo rather than a mundane martialist no matter how effective he is. And there are a lot of people who are still fans of the fighter who think the spell casters have been dealt a better deal in the 3e family of rules than they deserved - probably in an effort to weed out "unfun" elements of the rules like easy spell interruption and too many wasted actions casting save or die spells that aren't effective - an effort that ended up going too far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 6193727, member: 3400"] Multiple attacks. Whirlwind attack. Cleave/great cleave. It doesn't have to be an area of effect at all. Do we really see or read about single archers doing this? Usually I see it as multiple archers... Is there anything a bonafide god can't do? Because Heracles can do the things he does because that's what he is, not because he's a fighter. If he were a rogue or even an enchanter like Circe, you can bet he'd probably be doing the same things. And I don't think I'd use Achilles fighting Scamander as a positive example here. My copy of the Iliad has him running from the river like a little school girl crying out for the gods to save his misbegotten hiney. And it appears to be only their intervention that saves him. I don't really think I'm missing anything from most of the current discussion. HardcoreDandDGirl seems to want a character who encroaches on the wizard mojo rather than a mundane martialist no matter how effective he is. And there are a lot of people who are still fans of the fighter who think the spell casters have been dealt a better deal in the 3e family of rules than they deserved - probably in an effort to weed out "unfun" elements of the rules like easy spell interruption and too many wasted actions casting save or die spells that aren't effective - an effort that ended up going too far. [/QUOTE]
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