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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6193805" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>Ding ding ding we have a winner... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN, and maybe the BIGGEST problems. if you want to play the best melee class play a druid...</p><p></p><p> A divine rank 0 fighter at 24th level can not do half of what he is famus for...</p><p></p><p></p><p> Fighters have never in the history of the game had even at 19th level an ability with as much versatility or power as a 4th level wizard spell that the wizard got at 7th level...</p><p></p><p> that is a great example of the first 6 levels of the game... Fighters are tough, and casters have burst effectiveness... but by level 7 you don't run out of spells, and fighters have 2 crumbey saves....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> maybe... but it went way too far...</p><p></p><p> yea...no more ping that's one off my stone skin...</p><p></p><p> and left save or dies, and powerful multi versitle spells intact... I even said it was an ok start</p><p></p><p></p><p>me and you have similar experience (although to be fair it was a multi attacking ranger not a fighter) in 4e martial characters were brought up to the same level as casters... that is a good thing. I could make any class (ok like 9 out of 10 classes) and make a character that ranged from ok, through good to overpowered all the way to broken.</p><p></p><p></p><p> yea and she also said the 2e fighter and the warblade where what she was looking for. Don't you dare say she wants a wizard of all of us she has been the most clair in wanting to play a weapon based martial character that can do amazing things... if you don't want that class to be fighter she is even willing to play a class with a different name as long as she gets to be a weapon using martial class that can do cool and amazing things...</p><p></p><p> isn't that part of her argument right there??? Again She has even in other threads claimed 2e was the best edtion... so please tell me what part of WANTS TO PLAY A MARTIAL WEAPON BASED CLASS THAT DOES AMAZING THINGS is wrong?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6193805, member: 67338"] Ding ding ding we have a winner... THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN, and maybe the BIGGEST problems. if you want to play the best melee class play a druid... A divine rank 0 fighter at 24th level can not do half of what he is famus for... Fighters have never in the history of the game had even at 19th level an ability with as much versatility or power as a 4th level wizard spell that the wizard got at 7th level... that is a great example of the first 6 levels of the game... Fighters are tough, and casters have burst effectiveness... but by level 7 you don't run out of spells, and fighters have 2 crumbey saves.... maybe... but it went way too far... yea...no more ping that's one off my stone skin... and left save or dies, and powerful multi versitle spells intact... I even said it was an ok start me and you have similar experience (although to be fair it was a multi attacking ranger not a fighter) in 4e martial characters were brought up to the same level as casters... that is a good thing. I could make any class (ok like 9 out of 10 classes) and make a character that ranged from ok, through good to overpowered all the way to broken. yea and she also said the 2e fighter and the warblade where what she was looking for. Don't you dare say she wants a wizard of all of us she has been the most clair in wanting to play a weapon based martial character that can do amazing things... if you don't want that class to be fighter she is even willing to play a class with a different name as long as she gets to be a weapon using martial class that can do cool and amazing things... isn't that part of her argument right there??? Again She has even in other threads claimed 2e was the best edtion... so please tell me what part of WANTS TO PLAY A MARTIAL WEAPON BASED CLASS THAT DOES AMAZING THINGS is wrong? [/QUOTE]
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