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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6194324" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Mysticism isn't equivalent to magic. For instance, it includes auto-hypnosis. (And a troll's regeneration is non-magical. So why should I infer that a monk's mystical abilities are magical?)</p><p></p><p>They are natural to the dragon. They certainly don't resemble spell-casting. In AD&D, and in 3E, the game draws a marked distinction between a dragon's breath weapon and a dragon's spellcasting.</p><p></p><p>I don't see any reason why this should be so. Exclusivity and magic have no particular connection - for instance, most mortals can't run 4 minute miles, nor run 10s 100m, but the ability to do so isn't magical.</p><p></p><p>In Runequest all PCs can use magic, but one thing I've never seen said about RQ is that it's magic is non-magical.</p><p></p><p>My understanding is the same as that of [MENTION=67338]GMforPowergamers[/MENTION] - that a druid, by polymorphing into a bear or something similar and getting stat and grapple buffs, is a better wrestler than a fighter.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?301282-Actual-play-examples-balance-between-fiction-and-mechanics" target="_blank">Here</a> is a link to an actual play report from my game in which a fighter defeated a water weird. (Though not by wrestling it - the character is a polearm fighter, not a grappling fighter).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6194324, member: 42582"] Mysticism isn't equivalent to magic. For instance, it includes auto-hypnosis. (And a troll's regeneration is non-magical. So why should I infer that a monk's mystical abilities are magical?) They are natural to the dragon. They certainly don't resemble spell-casting. In AD&D, and in 3E, the game draws a marked distinction between a dragon's breath weapon and a dragon's spellcasting. I don't see any reason why this should be so. Exclusivity and magic have no particular connection - for instance, most mortals can't run 4 minute miles, nor run 10s 100m, but the ability to do so isn't magical. In Runequest all PCs can use magic, but one thing I've never seen said about RQ is that it's magic is non-magical. My understanding is the same as that of [MENTION=67338]GMforPowergamers[/MENTION] - that a druid, by polymorphing into a bear or something similar and getting stat and grapple buffs, is a better wrestler than a fighter. [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?301282-Actual-play-examples-balance-between-fiction-and-mechanics]Here[/url] is a link to an actual play report from my game in which a fighter defeated a water weird. (Though not by wrestling it - the character is a polearm fighter, not a grappling fighter). [/QUOTE]
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