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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9239086" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Ah, the old "It's popular and a lot of people play it but I don't personally like it so I'm going to imply it's crap!"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So I've noticed you still haven't ever answered [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER]'s question - what specifically do you think D&D should cover that it doesn't?</p><p></p><p>No game can cover absolutely everything unless it's purely a toolset for building games. So no, I don't think D&D needs to give explicit instructions for all possible scenarios. When it comes to areas that aren't covered, there is a chapter in the DMG <em>Dungeon Master's Workshop</em>. It could be improved, like everything else in the DMG, but it is there. I've never experienced these huge gaps others see, not when I DM or play. If you need something that's not provided it's likely quite a niche, which is one of the reasons why 3PP is well supported.</p><p></p><p>For example D&D has never had a good mass combat system because it's focused on a small team of PCs. I don't think it's really a flaw that they don't have it when there simply isn't a good way of melding the two. If you want mass combat, use a different system. D&D is flexible but it is not infinitely flexible. It covers a broader set of scenarios and themes than many games but it can't cover every scenario. If it doesn't do something you expect, I don't think it's the book's fault.</p><p></p><p>There's a Perkins down the street from me. It serves a wide variety of food, But you can't get a taco there. They serve a wider variety of foods, at about the same quality you'll get at that price point, at a lot of restaurants. Is it the best restaurant for a steak? Not for me, I wouldn't bother. But when I've been on the road I actually like to get the roast beef sometimes because I can get a side of veggies, something sorely missing in a lot of menus. Heck you can even get a burger with a bowl of soup, which is nice because I don't care for fries very often. </p><p></p><p>I don't complain about Perkins not having burritos any more than I think it's an issue that D&D doesn't have mass combat rules or only gives general guidelines for how to handle things that are outside of the box. I don't think anybody is particularly confused about what D&D is, if they are there are plenty of actual play streams out there to watch which is better than including it in a book that you have to buy to figure out it's not the game for you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9239086, member: 6801845"] Ah, the old "It's popular and a lot of people play it but I don't personally like it so I'm going to imply it's crap!" So I've noticed you still haven't ever answered [USER=48965]@Imaro[/USER]'s question - what specifically do you think D&D should cover that it doesn't? No game can cover absolutely everything unless it's purely a toolset for building games. So no, I don't think D&D needs to give explicit instructions for all possible scenarios. When it comes to areas that aren't covered, there is a chapter in the DMG [I]Dungeon Master's Workshop[/I]. It could be improved, like everything else in the DMG, but it is there. I've never experienced these huge gaps others see, not when I DM or play. If you need something that's not provided it's likely quite a niche, which is one of the reasons why 3PP is well supported. For example D&D has never had a good mass combat system because it's focused on a small team of PCs. I don't think it's really a flaw that they don't have it when there simply isn't a good way of melding the two. If you want mass combat, use a different system. D&D is flexible but it is not infinitely flexible. It covers a broader set of scenarios and themes than many games but it can't cover every scenario. If it doesn't do something you expect, I don't think it's the book's fault. There's a Perkins down the street from me. It serves a wide variety of food, But you can't get a taco there. They serve a wider variety of foods, at about the same quality you'll get at that price point, at a lot of restaurants. Is it the best restaurant for a steak? Not for me, I wouldn't bother. But when I've been on the road I actually like to get the roast beef sometimes because I can get a side of veggies, something sorely missing in a lot of menus. Heck you can even get a burger with a bowl of soup, which is nice because I don't care for fries very often. I don't complain about Perkins not having burritos any more than I think it's an issue that D&D doesn't have mass combat rules or only gives general guidelines for how to handle things that are outside of the box. I don't think anybody is particularly confused about what D&D is, if they are there are plenty of actual play streams out there to watch which is better than including it in a book that you have to buy to figure out it's not the game for you. [/QUOTE]
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