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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9239293" data-attributes="member: 6801845">When it comes to "transparency", which actually seems to mean having the same expectations for every group, one person's flaw is another person's fix.  First of all, I think everyone agrees that the DMG needs to be redone.  I'd like to see them have some very general guidelines for treasure.  But I'd want something along the lines of low, medium and high magic campaign with some discussion of why you'd target different levels.But I also understand why they did it.  Especially in 4E getting new upgraded items wasn't really a reward, it was more of a hamster wheel.   You didn't get better because of the +5 weapon, you just needed it to keep up.  In my campaigns, I'm pretty stingy because I want the character abilities to matter more than the items.  Even in my 20th level game, only 1 person had +2 armor and weapons maxed out at +1 although I added special features to some.  Well except for the paladin with a Holy Avenger because if you're a 20th level paladin you really should have it.We'll see what they do with the 2024 edition.  In the meantime if you need that kind of info, it's a google search away.</blockquote>