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<blockquote data-quote="elarson13" data-source="post: 8526323" data-attributes="member: 7034747"><p>I'm with OP on this one. The Friends spell is total garbage. </p><p></p><p>The number of situations in which you can make your check and get all the way out of Dodge without danger of pursuit/reprisal is almost none. Go through your day (even <em>without </em>having to lie to cops, do combat against demonic cultists, etc.) and think about when you would use <em>friends </em>RAW. Use it at the drive-thru to get free fries? They call the cops a minute later. Use it to talk your way out of a ticket? The cop wises up 30 seconds later and arrests your ass. Seriously, I need to know the situations in which people are pulling this off (without the DM just handwaving and saying, "He's really mad now, but he just stands there fuming without doing anything about it"). </p><p></p><p>The problem is that it's only a cantrip in the first place. It would much better if there were a different spell (maybe <em>greater friends</em> or something) that was a leveled spell without the hostility penalty, which would avoid the OP hand-wringing: level 1-3 with a duration of 1 check-1 minute. Then it would be acually useful without danger of abuse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elarson13, post: 8526323, member: 7034747"] I'm with OP on this one. The Friends spell is total garbage. The number of situations in which you can make your check and get all the way out of Dodge without danger of pursuit/reprisal is almost none. Go through your day (even [I]without [/I]having to lie to cops, do combat against demonic cultists, etc.) and think about when you would use [I]friends [/I]RAW. Use it at the drive-thru to get free fries? They call the cops a minute later. Use it to talk your way out of a ticket? The cop wises up 30 seconds later and arrests your ass. Seriously, I need to know the situations in which people are pulling this off (without the DM just handwaving and saying, "He's really mad now, but he just stands there fuming without doing anything about it"). The problem is that it's only a cantrip in the first place. It would much better if there were a different spell (maybe [I]greater friends[/I] or something) that was a leveled spell without the hostility penalty, which would avoid the OP hand-wringing: level 1-3 with a duration of 1 check-1 minute. Then it would be acually useful without danger of abuse. [/QUOTE]
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