D&D 5E Don't Throw 5e Away Because of Hasbro

[EzekielRaiden]

not really, it is also a ‘I have no problem with it’ if you consider other comments

I have reviewed those comments. Nothing of the kind has been said. You also are either inventing something that is not there, or doing as I said, transmuting mere understanding into explicit approval.

Not being outraged about something does not mean you approve of it.

 

[Faolyn]

The largest collection agency in America has terrible reputation? Color me shocked.

The funny thing is, had WotC hired some other collection agency, we'd be having EXACTLY the same conversation, just with different proper nouns.

I doubt it, because those other collection agencies probably don't have nearly as bad a reputation.

Also, there was no real reason to even send a "collection agency" (which the Pinkertons are not; they're a security firm) to Cannon's house in the first place. The cards weren't stolen.

Obviously you're invested in making this a big deal so have at it but I have nothing more to add.

I've asked a couple of times why they hired the Pinkertons, who are not detectives, primarily do security, and have a reputation for illegal activities.

You haven't given me your opinion on why the picked them. Instead, you have quite pointedly refused to answer.

 

[Faolyn]

People should step away from these images they have of this company that come from history and, more often, movies and TV. Pinkertons, particularly those outside the Protection department, are usually nothing like the image many people here seem to have of them.

By history, do you mean the 2020s, when they were spent to spy on people trying to form a union?

Because my image isn't of Wild West shenanigans. It's of that.

 

[Hussar]

Also, there was no real reason to even send a "collection agency" (which the Pinkertons are not; they're a security firm) to Cannon's house in the first place. The cards weren't stolen.

Collection agencies do not necessarily only recover stolen goods. But, yeah, it wouldn't matter if they sent Mr. Rogers to retrieve the cards, WotC would still be in the wrong.

 

[Mistwell]

By history, do you mean the 2020s, when they were spent to spy on people trying to form a union?

Because my image isn't of Wild West shenanigans. It's of that.

I don't know why you have trouble imaging Pinkertons has departments outside of their Protection (security) department, but you already made a bold false statement about them not having investigators (though I think that's now their largest department). I'd think you'd be more humble than to pretend that didn't just happen and circle back to focusing again on the Protection (security) department like that's what we're discussing when we all know now it's not.

Let me ask you this: their private firefighters who just risked their lives to protect homes in the Palisades, do they also match your Wild West shenanigans image?

 

[Mistwell]

I doubt it, because those other collection agencies probably don't have nearly as bad a reputation.

Also, there was no real reason to even send a "collection agency" (which the Pinkertons are not; they're a security firm) to Cannon's house in the first place. The cards weren't stolen.

The cards were stolen. They were not stolen by the guy who eventually received them. It appears an employee at WOTC may have stolen them, though WOTC is remaining quiet about that. That's what can likely be deduced from the deleted video, and the explanation about where the end-recipient got them, and the nature of the questions from the detectives.

And again, Pinkertons are absolutely not only a security firm. At this point, I think you doubling down on that after you already know that's not true is pretty suspect. I mean, go to their website if you still question it. A MAJORITY of their departments and sub-departments are not security thee days.

I've asked a couple of times why they hired the Pinkertons, who are not detectives, primarily do security, and have a reputation for illegal activities.

Because they are detectives. Which you knew when you typed this. You'd already responded to my post where I laid it out in detail.

So why are you continuing to misrepresent the guys involved with this issue? Before it could have been a mistake, But now? No, you're not making a mistake. You did know they were detectives and yet chose to post what you just did.

You haven't given me your opinion on why the picked them. Instead, you have quite pointedly refused to answer.

Obviously because THEY ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST CORPORATE DETECTIVE AGENCIES ON THE PLANET.

 

[Hussar]

Gee, imagine my utter shock and surprise that misinformation and false statements are being repeated over and over again. It's almost like I called this out a few pages ago and got told that it never happens.

 

[Mistwell]

Collection agencies do not necessarily only recover stolen goods. But, yeah, it wouldn't matter if they sent Mr. Rogers to retrieve the cards, WotC would still be in the wrong.

They were in fact investigating what appears to be, and very likely is, stolen goods concerning a leak in their distribution chain. The guy whose house they were at did not steal them (though they didn't know that at the time), but it does appear they were stolen to begin with. Possibly (likely?) near the end point in distribution actually at WOTC.

 

[mamba]

Not being outraged about something does not mean you approve of it.

well, he is not showing any signs of disapproval and you know the saying, silence is consent…

 

[mamba]

Collection agencies do not necessarily only recover stolen goods. But, yeah, it wouldn't matter if they sent Mr. Rogers to retrieve the cards, WotC would still be in the wrong.

yeah, that is where you lose credibility…