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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7637416" data-attributes="member: 16814">When did I say my problem was a race?&nbsp; You added the race to add the chase mechanics to show me my problem with how the rogue is 50% faster in combat time isn't a valid complaint because they aren't, maybe, that much faster in the chase mechanics.&nbsp; Mechanics that you then used to present a tortoise-and-hare example while openly showing the rogue rapidly outpaces the fighter right out of the gate.&nbsp; If it's a 1k race, sure, the tortoise likely wins because the hare is napping, but in the 100M race, the tortoise doesn't have a chance, regardless of his strength, size, physical fitness, or athletic prowess.&nbsp;&nbsp; A weakling, sick rogue with no athletic ability at all beats this fighter in a 100M dash every time, using the very chase rules you are pitching as the great leveler -- you just elide that it only works as an endurance contest, not a speed contest.As I noted before, though, excellent marks!&nbsp; I'm very much enjoying the justification hoops deployed to counter a mild comment that's mildly negative about the game design.&nbsp; My pique is so great that I've done absolutely nothing about it in my weekly 5e game since launch!&nbsp; I mean, come on, the thread is a question about double dashing.&nbsp; If this isn't a place I can say &quot;I find double dashing mildly annoying&quot; without an attempted pillorying -- where can I possibly have a mild annoyance at 5e design?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7637416, member: 16814"] When did I say my problem was a race? You added the race to add the chase mechanics to show me my problem with how the rogue is 50% faster in combat time isn't a valid complaint because they aren't, maybe, that much faster in the chase mechanics. Mechanics that you then used to present a tortoise-and-hare example while openly showing the rogue rapidly outpaces the fighter right out of the gate. If it's a 1k race, sure, the tortoise likely wins because the hare is napping, but in the 100M race, the tortoise doesn't have a chance, regardless of his strength, size, physical fitness, or athletic prowess. A weakling, sick rogue with no athletic ability at all beats this fighter in a 100M dash every time, using the very chase rules you are pitching as the great leveler -- you just elide that it only works as an endurance contest, not a speed contest. As I noted before, though, excellent marks! I'm very much enjoying the justification hoops deployed to counter a mild comment that's mildly negative about the game design. My pique is so great that I've done absolutely nothing about it in my weekly 5e game since launch! I mean, come on, the thread is a question about double dashing. If this isn't a place I can say "I find double dashing mildly annoying" without an attempted pillorying -- where can I possibly have a mild annoyance at 5e design? [/QUOTE]

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