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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 2568917" data-attributes="member: 114">My answer depends upon whether you are the player or the DM.If you are the player, then I think that the rules for crafting weapons talking about both ends being separately enhanced, and the fact that shillelagh specifically calls the spell out as affecting both ends whereas other weapon-buffing spells don't, seem to be sufficient evidence for the cautious DM to clearly rule that a casting of the spell only affects one end.On the other hand, if you are the DM you are in the position to consider how the standard rules affect your game, whether they seem clear to you, and make whatever tweaks you think are necessary (while suggesting that you understand the reasoning behind the existing rule first, and not just make changes willy-nilly). So if you are the DM, what do you think would be the worst impact of allowing a double weapon to have both ends affected? Would it be such an effective option that everyone would start running around with double weapons, or would it have neglible effect? Would the most extreme example be a 16+ level ftr with greater twf who would be getting an extra +5 hit and +5 damage on all his off-hand attacks with high level GMW? How would the numbers compare to someone with a 2H sword with GMW? Of course, that could open up the whole &quot;twf vs 2HF debate once again, so you might not want to go there!Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 2568917, member: 114"] My answer depends upon whether you are the player or the DM. If you are the player, then I think that the rules for crafting weapons talking about both ends being separately enhanced, and the fact that shillelagh specifically calls the spell out as affecting both ends whereas other weapon-buffing spells don't, seem to be sufficient evidence for the cautious DM to clearly rule that a casting of the spell only affects one end. On the other hand, if you are the DM you are in the position to consider how the standard rules affect your game, whether they seem clear to you, and make whatever tweaks you think are necessary (while suggesting that you understand the reasoning behind the existing rule first, and not just make changes willy-nilly). So if you are the DM, what do you think would be the worst impact of allowing a double weapon to have both ends affected? Would it be such an effective option that everyone would start running around with double weapons, or would it have neglible effect? Would the most extreme example be a 16+ level ftr with greater twf who would be getting an extra +5 hit and +5 damage on all his off-hand attacks with high level GMW? How would the numbers compare to someone with a 2H sword with GMW? Of course, that could open up the whole "twf vs 2HF debate once again, so you might not want to go there! Cheers [/QUOTE]

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